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1972 Quarter Struck Over 1964 Silver Quarter

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 Posted 05/05/2008  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

maybe I am being paranoid, but I wouldn't send it anyplace until I found a lawyer who could be my mouthpiece to find out if the Treasury department filed any case involving employee misconduct of similar nature ( especially in/around the year of 1972), and if such cases were in their favor. If so, it is possible the coin could be considered the property of the US treasury. Sending it to be graded and authenicated leaves a paper trail in case worse comes to worse.Shhhhh they may be listening :)

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 Posted 05/05/2008  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericnh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jbuck, your right it's very possible but the odds of it getting struck on the correct side so close to the original strike makes me believe that it was,most likely, manually placed there. It's just another piece of this very interesting puzzle.
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My scale was set on ounces instead of grams. It actually is the correct weight at 6.23 grams. We weighted a couple of other coins and I messed up. Sorry, everyone.


It is the correct weight for an apparent 1964-P quarter.

I'm more than 50% certain that this was struck by legitimate 1972-P quarter dies. There are just a few little problems that would likely be cleared up if seen in hand.

I have pretty little experience with overstrikes but it looks about right from this angle as well.

If it were struck by legitimate '72 dies than it matters little what is underneath. It would be even more interesting if the host were counterfeit or something.
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jbuck, your right it's very possible but the odds of it getting struck on the correct side so close to the original strike makes me believe that it was,most likely, manually placed there. It's just another piece of this very interesting puzzle.


I agree. It was in about the perfect position to see both coins.
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 Posted 05/05/2008  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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the odds of it getting struck on the correct side so close to the original strike makes me believe that it was,most likely, manually placed there

Well, Jbuck has a point--it's only human to assign intent to what could be a random event. That said, I still do find that an intriguing coincidence.

Here's a thought: if somebody hand-fed this coin (if possible), what are the odds that more were struck? If a few others exist that are struck same-side, then the odds of a manual feed go up, I would say.

Eel, once again accept my apologies for being so skeptical at the onset. Only natural I suppose! If I had known the '72 was clearly overstruck a '64, perhaps that would've made sense to me. In any case, congrats on this very cool find!
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I will almost bet this is a 1 of 1 coin and no others exist
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 Posted 05/05/2008  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys...know that I was only kidding about the apologies...

It was nice meeting you today Susan and Bob. Thank you for posting the pictures, and for providing the forum with the information. I'm really happy to have been able to give something to you all who love this hobby.

Now...do I sleep with one eye open from this point forward? Help! :/
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At this point, I believe this topic should be moved to the Error/Variety section. I believe we have some people here that only watch that section who could be very helpful with the identification of this coin.

Congratulations again, Eel. I'm so happy for you!
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jbuck, your right it's very possible but the odds of it getting struck on the correct side so close to the original strike makes me believe that it was,most likely, manually placed there.
If I were a betting man (I am not), I would say odds are in your favour. I just wanted to point out it is not sure bet! I tend to accept all possibilities until I have enough evidence.
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Well, Jbuck has a point--it's only human to assign intent to what could be a random event.
My friends say I just like to contradict, but the reality is that I am a skeptic.
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Now...do I sleep with one eye open from this point forward? Help! :/
At the very least, I would get more opinions from the forum before I would send it off. I would seriously consider obtaining legal counsel if enough people here agree that it was created inside the mint.

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 Posted 05/06/2008  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks absolutely authentic to me. As to whether it had help, I'd say it's pretty likely, but there's no way to be sure.
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 Posted 05/06/2008  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK... I'm getting a bit concerned... Should I be? :/
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Did your grandad work at the mint? You never know... BAHAHA.. just jking take it easy... Congrats on that awesome find..
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Welcome Mike Diamond!

It is nice to see you post here, I will be looking forward to reading more of your posts as I am sure you have much to teach
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 Posted 05/06/2008  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add photoeric21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would really consider hiring a lawyer.. and possibly a very large man to protect you and the coin while you're figuring out what to do haha

Anyone see that movie where Mark Walburg and a bunch of rag tag theives try and steal some gold bars from Edward Norton?

eel.. find out who that HUGE guy who's always at the driving range in that movie is and hire him!
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Get a small safety deposit box and put the coin away until you are ready to have it certified. Send the coin only via registered mail with at least $5k insured value.
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