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1909 S VDB Cent Verification Please. Updated Results!

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 Posted 09/01/2017  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 999fine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Big Silver - I'll retract my request. I really like the one you created with multiple images..
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 Posted 09/01/2017  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. If anyone wants to know just how it was done, feel free to email me. I think it is a bit much to put in this thread.
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@999fine - I doubt many collect this date by die pairing. But it is one of just a few Lincolns where the collecting community has come to agree on the known dies and their characteristics, so yes these pairings are of huge academic importance in sorting out many kinds of (but not all) fakes.
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I must admit that, the more I re-read this thread, the more skeptical I am of my own diagnosis. I got hypnotized by the light show and failed to re-check earlier posts. I await the submission return with great interest.
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Using your gif I can see the die chip in the upper loop of the S, coin appears to be genuine. I'd send it out for slabbing.
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 Posted 09/01/2017  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smoke1439 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with Mox on this one. I wish you the best.
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 Posted 10/03/2017  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This was sent to ANACS and the verdict is in!
Genuine
F15 Details/Polished
After all considered, and the current market I will have paid too much for it, but I am in a way still happy.
I will be posting a sale thread for this some time on the near future.
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 Posted 10/03/2017  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBackPenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations on it being real! I am glad everything turned out okay.
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Well that is great news! I'm very glad that I was wrong about the mintmark being added.
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On dies #1, #2 and #3 the mint mark is tilted, only on die #4 is the mint mark upright.

Also, only on die #4 is the mint mark well below the bottoms of the nines.

Your coin is a die #4 - absolutely no question in my mind.

It is very common to see the die scratches around the mint mark on die #4.

ps. the four dies used for the 1909-S VDB are not known as "pairs". I have personally seen no research that indicates that each of the four obverse dies was only used only with a specific reverse. I am, however, collecting data on the subject but have not analyzed any of it yet.
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CONGRATS!! Even cleaned and damaged SVDB's are worth good money. You at least doubled the value of this coin by slabbing it.
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Good news!

I am glad I was wrong.
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