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 Posted 09/02/2017  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost sure ebay allows ICCS coins on the Canadian side, but generally the most expensive coins are in PCGS or NGC holders
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 Posted 09/02/2017  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loonielewy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I am still confused. But that's another thread (can of worms).
I hope you like your coins. Have a good long weekend everyone.

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 Posted 09/02/2017  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheBurnz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup, Its a whole other topic but one to be discussed forever. PSGS and NGC (I think) are big name companies that will stand the test of time (until coin collecting is a industry at least). They are corporations with employees and structure. ICCS is a one man show, at least from what I hear. Once he is no longer around, I'm not sure ICCS coins will continue to recognized.

For now, I think its all about appeal. Some like there coffee black (ICCS), some like it with sugar and cream(PCGS/NGC). Its up to the buyer. Although I get that most people like sugar in their coffee(PCGS), so if I am buying a coffee for a friend and I had to choose. I would get coffee with sugar (higher chance he'll drink it).
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 Posted 09/03/2017  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Also, I'm not sure how grading works with damages.


I mean this with all due respect, but you might want to gain a little more knowledge before impulse buying $300 coins, otherwise you will end up with a very expensive education.

As others have stated, unless a rare date - a problem coin will always be a problem coin - and a lot tougher to sell (more so if you expect a profit).

When buying online you are competing with many many other collectors and will pay market value - period. Hard to turn a dime unless you snag an early buy-it-now where the seller listed below market value price (rarely happens).

Considering listing/final value fees you will have to buy at around 40% less than market value in order to make anything when you resell.

Collect because you like what you are buying. If you expect this "hobby" to make you a profit you will likely be a lot sadder and poorer (but hopefully wiser) at the end of it all.

Stick around here, read, ask questions, and learn from other's mistakes (we've all made the same ones over and over).

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Agree with SPP...the prices you paid are market or even slightly above market...

dings, bending and holes reduce coin prices the most...

these coins will be difficult to impossible to resell

it's only worthwhile to buy a scarce variety that has such damage...not a regular date

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They are both marked cleaned or scratches. Does that hurt the value that much.


They certainly do. That is the reason you got them for such a low price. Impaired coins are always discounted heavily and that is what happened in this case.

I would never buy an impaired coin unless to fill in a missing spot in my collection. And I would upgrade to a better one if I can.


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I recently bought these to coins and I think I got a screaming good deal. My goal is to re-sale for a small profit.


It's not a good deal when you re-sell them since the coins are already at market or above market prices. To get rid of them you have give additional discounts, not to mention fees. You probably will lose money on them. Of course, you can keep and enjoy them.
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 Posted 09/05/2017  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheBurnz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup, thanks again guys. In this case I wasn't sure on the grading system. The auction house had an estimate of $700-$800 on the item. So when I bid the amount I did, I thought I was getting a deal.

I'll end up keeping the coins as a reminder to pass on damaged or cleaned coins, unless I plan on hording them.

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This is one of the gripes about ICCS grading format they grade problem coins with a numeric grade and thus add to confusion while PCGS would only say Detail and NGC has a term, can't recall but no numeric grade, when you see a coin in their slab without a number it's a problem coin. One last advice never hoard problem coins, get rid of these as fast as you can
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while PCGS would only say Detail and NGC has a term


NGC/PCGS will give you a term like AU-Details, while it is not a specific number it puts it in the range of where they think it is. Personally I don't see much difference between either of the practices in terms of
"Details" coins.
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