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Found A 1903 5c With Die Crack And Big Dot?

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Hey there,

I was metal detecting near Princeton, B.C. when I found this 1903 5C with an awesome die crack going through it. Found around same camp fire 2 other 5c and one 1883 3 pence.

I was wondering, what do you call the dot that has been left under the 5? I am new to grading and terminology.

Thanks,

Also, large or small H?


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WOW nice find!

I am no expert but I think that dot is called a Cud.

This is taken from wiki...:

A Cud is a variation of a die defect in which the coin bears a raised portion of metal. Unlike a die crack, this unintentional "bump" in the coin is caused by a dent or gouge in the die, therefore allowing the coin to fill into the gap during the minting process.
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to CCF. Here in the states it is called a die chip not a Cud. A Cud always includes the rim.Nice die crack.
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To me, being from both up here and the States, most Cuds are where deep die cracks come together or touch the rim and a piece of the die breaks or chips away. It is usually a prelude to the die essentially disintegrating or breaking away in one area. Most Cuds are on the edge of the coin, but you can have them internal to the design as well. The "dot" above looks like a die chip (rather than Cud) between the edge of the 5 and the vertical die crack
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I am new to grading and terminology.


Here is your first tip. When you find coins through metal detecting, treat them (and clean them) like they were made of tissue paper - don't clean them so vigorously, or even the nicest coin you find becomes upgradable.
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Nice die crack with chip and it's a large H
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Thanks for the tips on being gentle with the coins. I researched that a light rinse with a little baking soda was a decent way to clean the silver. I've used the technique in the past. Most coins I pull from the ground aren't nearly as crisp as this one.
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I researched that a light rinse with a little baking soda was a decent way to clean the silver.


Whenever I've heard of using baking soda it was in the context of rubbing something to get shiny or clean.

Never rub a coin..and I would never use baking soda on any coin..
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Coins and Canada shows your die crack (click the link under "photo"), but not your dot: http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...ts-1902-1910
Nice find.
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