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1911-S Cent W/ Electrical Hole?

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I apologize for the quality of pictures. First post of this site and pretty darn new to Coin Roll Hunting. I am wondering what a hole like this does to the grade. I was told it was an electrical shock and you can see the burnt copper on the reverse. I'll get better pictures really soon, I'm just curious about the hole right now. Thanks everybody, for ANY information you can give me on this guy!


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to CCF. It would give it a "damaged" grade. e.g. VF-30 Damaged or Details, I would think.
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And the damaged grade makes it only worth something to someone particularly interested in the particular coin, correct? Sorry, I'm super new! Haha
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There are two types of 'damage' you could be looking for: mint errors and post mint errors. The first category is for example off-center strikes, double die coins, die clashes, etc. Just about anything a mint can do to deliver not-perfect coins. Those usually give extra value to specific collectors.

All other coins with damage are considered 'post mint damage' or PMD for short. That basically means that your coin is ruined and honestly, I know no one who collects coins with post mint damage. In this case your 1911 cent is probably considered to be worth 1 cent to most people. Only metal dealers will say that the actual metal value is just above that, but the hole in your coin absolutely add no value for anyone. I think most people will use it as a 'place holder' at best in their collection and get rid of it as soon as they find something better.

For the grade, it will probably indeed get a VF grade with a huge comment on 'details' or 'damaged' or something like that. They might even send the coin back in a 'body bag' if they consider it ungradeable.
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It looks like someone drilled a hole starting on the obverse side (see the build-up of pressed metal on the reverse.
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That darn ed hole! It's a shame, the penny is pretty nice otherwise.
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There is no percentage that could be applied as an indicator of value. The only folks who would buy this coin would be collectors filling a hole, or new to collecting.

If you could get $10 for this coin that would be my own evaluation of value.
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If it was mine I'd put it in my better date cull box .
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I would put it aside for sure.
Looks to me like someone used a soldering iron to make the hole.
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@Ultrarant,there are a few who collect ruined coins. I have heard of a clergyman to made a display of the most appalling ruined coins that were given in church collection plates.

I think that is exceptional, though.
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to the CCF, and great find, holed or not!
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OUCH! One of the more valuable Lincolns - ruined.

Looks like an EF/AU coin to me, what a shame.
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that is a great find from a roll,but ugly damage! Darn
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Thanks everyone for your input, both positive AND critical. That's what I need to hear. I think I'm going to learn a lot here and I appreciate any knowledge you can impart upon me! If anyone's interested I will post better pics, because in my opinion. It is the nicest looking 1911s I've seen in person (minus the hole of course) and I'm curious to what you would grade the rest of the coin had it not been SEVERLY damaged. Once again, thank you all!
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@Ultrarant,there are a few who collect ruined coins. I have heard of a clergyman to made a display of the most appalling ruined coins that were given in church collection plates.

I think that is exceptional, though.


I know someone who, when still being forced to attend church service due to social pressure, saved the ugliest change for the church plates. Clergymen are considered 'special' here, so this kind of collecting by such a person doesn't sound like a surprise to me.

Fortunately, we in Europe have gone past this stage now so people actually can choose if they want to spend their free time on such things or not. I, for one, know that my free time is holy to me.


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I think I'm going to learn a lot here and I appreciate any knowledge you can impart upon me!


and I hope you'll have a great time here!
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