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How Many Ancient Coins In Your Collection.

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 Posted 09/28/2017  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like I have 14 coins prior to 500AD.

My catalog system is to keep symbolic links (to the real photos) in a single directory. The file names tell me what the coin is. For example:


[520]_480BC-450BC_TR_Paphlagonia_AR_drachm_mSinope_1o_2016-09-02-00.56.53 ZS DMap.tif

[849]_151BC_IT_Roman_Republic_AR_denarius_mRome_1o__2016-08-19-07.45.46 ZS DMap.tif 

[938]_62BC_IT_Roman_Republic_AR_denarius_mRome_1o_2016-08-03-04.56.48 ZS DMap.tif

80_IT_Roman_Empire_AR_denarius_mRome_1sNGC_DPP_2016_08_05__0027.TIF


One thing to notice here is that he first three images were processed by Zerene Stacker (hence the "DMap.tiff" at the end



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 Posted 09/29/2017  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orfew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I currently have 62 coins in my collection. As for my catalogue system, I list my coins on FAC so I always have a description and photo in the case of theft. I have a word file that I update everytime I add a coin. This file has a description, attribution, price paid, provenance, and where purchased. I have a flip for each coin and these are stored in a red box. I also have a personal website where many of my coins are listed and described. I also keep a 3 ring binder which has plastic sleeves that hold all of the information about my coins including a copy of the FAC pages, a copy of the Word file, and all the receipts for my coins. This binder also holds all of the documents on provenance as well as import/export certificates and certificates of antiquity.

My coins

3 Greek Coins
18 Medieval coins ( English, French, Anglo-Gallic and 2 Islamic gold coins)
5 Byzantine coins (all gold)
9 Silver Republican coins (including 5 imperatorial coins)
2 Constantinian folles
3 Egyptian tetradrachms
1 4th century gold solidus of Valens
19 silver denarii of the 1st century AD
2 denarii of the 2nd century AD
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 Posted 09/29/2017  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I need to catch up on some photos, I maintain a separate file with all my photos and use a reference number on the catalog to where the photo is located.

Someday if I ever get around to it I would like to catalog the collection in this manner.
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 Posted 09/29/2017  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have about a handful of ancients right now. The oddest one is probably a Persian silver drachme from the Khusru I era. I think it's in VF condition. Otherwise I have some Roman / Byzantine coins now.
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Hope you guys don't mind me stepping in but just wanted to say that I don't have a single ancient coin in my 50 + year collection . Not because I don't find them interesting and loaded with history but because in my mind I feel that they are too easy to FAKE . I've always been fascinated with ancients ,but have no knowledge of them so I kept my distance from ancients all those years .
Do any of you guys worry about fakes ,or is there an easy way of knowing genuine coins from the ones that are created in someone's basement ?
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 Posted 09/29/2017  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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is there an easy way of knowing genuine coins from the ones that are created in someone's basement ?



When you don't know the material well, the surest way to be safe is to buy from a reputable dealer. Stay at that level until you know what to look for. Gradually, knowledge will take over and fear, which comes from ignorance (i.e. lack of knowledge, not stupidity), will decrease.

To deprive yourself of this enjoyment just because it is not already familiar to you would be an unfortunate mistake.



On the matter of cataloging a collection, I have struggled with that for years, and it has just gotten worse as my collection has grown. I used to use dBase III, and then Paradox, and then MS Access. But the first two phased out, and the third got to be too cumbersome, though I still have the old software. But when it got to about the 3000 coin level for all the ancients (about 15 years ago) I stopped counting or trying to keep a database.

Since then, the writeups I have encoded on the flips are my principle method for linking items and pictures to a common collection, grouping in pages and binders as necessary. The key point of linkage is the coding system I derived for image file names which gets written on each flip. The image files are archived and backed up, in some cases on DVD or Blu-Ray discs. It is enough for collecting, but the blend of technology and manual operation is not automated enough for keeping a sales inventory or records.
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 Posted 09/29/2017  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add museumguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I'm back up to around 70 this time around, mostly Parthian with some Seleucid, Bactrian and Indo-Greeks thrown in. When I collected strictly Greeks I was over 250 but sold them to re-focus my collection. I use an old program I picked up called Bento. You can design it any way you want - adding different colors, categories, drop down boxes, etc. - whatever information you want to capture. You can also format it any way you want by moving the data field around in almost any configuration you want. Seems to work great and has survived several updates to my MAC operating system. It's not sold anymore (I think it was a Filemaker product) but perhaps can be found on ebay.

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 Posted 09/29/2017  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thankfully, the only truly dangerous fakes (the type that could fool an expert) are pretty much confined to classical Greek and Roman silver and gold, Chinese early coins (knives and spades mostly) and some other miscellaneous, usually gold coins. Most ancients (especially Roman bronzes) are too common to justify convincing fakes - by the time you have made it, it would be cheaper to just go out and find them with a metal detector. Can't speak for everyone here, but my collection totally falls into the 80/20 rule; 80% of the coins make 20% of the value and vice versa. I only buy the big bucks coins from vcoins or very trusted ebay sellers. Lots of coins from inexperienced sellers are good ways to get solid deals, make some cash, or both. I think I bought one fake coin (lesson learned; don't buy ancients from Eastern European ebay stores, period.) Fakes aren't as prevalent as you may think.

A while ago I had a few "budget ancients" threads on here; night have to give those a little revival! There are some amazing coins that can be had very cheap!
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 Posted 09/29/2017  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have always been intrigued by the coinage of post Roman Europe, up to 1,000 AD, which is always expensive and very difficult to obtain.
The only representatives in my collection that covers this period is a rather humble Anglo Saxon bronze sceat of Eanred, and two silver Islamic dirhems, (Umayyad and Abbasid).

Perhaps not surprising, because very little coinage was needed during the European Dark Ages. Some contemporary Islamic coinages did find their way into Europe in this period.
The rest of my Islamic silver is more than 1,000 years old, and I needed professional help in it's attribution.

The only reasonable book in my library that covers this period is
Coins of Medieval Europe, by
Philip Grierson.
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 Posted 10/01/2017  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for your comments.
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