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1983 DD Obv. LMC

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 Posted 05/12/2008  10:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add closelook to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found this in a bank roll, Ive been trying to match it. On coppercoins it looks like it could be 1DO-008 but an EDS, the doubling looks a lot clearer on this coin. In CPG it looks like it could be FS#1-035.2 [3-0-V ] Just not sure if it is one of these or a different one. There is no doubling on the date. Any help would be appreciated.

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 Posted 05/12/2008  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a doubled die, but I cannot tell you from images which one. Congrats on the find, these are scarce.
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 Posted 05/12/2008  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats, Louis, great find.

Jim
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 Posted 05/12/2008  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow--what a great find in a bankroll--congrats!
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 Posted 05/12/2008  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add closelook to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Out of this bank box I found 1963-D 1DO-002 1981-D DMM ? I'll post that later, 1974-1DO-001 large date and a 2000 with some type of doubling between the columns witch is posted. Still have 20 rolls to go.
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 Posted 05/12/2008  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I don't want to be a nuisance as you have some great shots there but I need to see the date as well in order to help. Definitely a doubled die! Some are evident on the date, some are not. I might be able to give you an idea. The whole date in one shot, if possible, and the 83 in another if you can.

I lean toward FS#1c-035 in the CherryPickers' Guide.

Thanks,
Bill

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05/12/2008 11:55 pm
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 Posted 05/13/2008  01:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add closelook to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Here's the pics of the date Bill, I'm using a microscope and can't get the hole date in one shot. It is no problem for me to supply more pics and I hope they help. Thanks Louis
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 Posted 05/14/2008  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

OK, I'm 99.9% sure it is the one I mentioned above....FS#1c-035

Others have a more obvious doubling on the date. Although not dramatic on the date, this coin shows a minute bulging on the lower right of the bottom of the 8 an a slight thickness of the tail of the three. Again, very subtle but it nails this one down.

Breen labeled it as #2309 but I don't generally work in Breen #s very few people do anymore.

The coin is a Class V doubled die. Pivoted hub doubling. The point of rotation is not toward the center as it would be on what is called a Class I doubled die (The big 1972 DDO Lincoln Cent, for example).

The pivot point as the die was being hubbed would be more toward the edge of the coin on a Class V doubled die. In the case of this coin, the pivot point would have been along the rim (more or less) near the date.

Consequently there is almost no doubling on the date but the doubling is evident on the LIBERTY and the IN GOD WE TRUST.

Nice coin!

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 05/14/2008  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GREAT FIND! COMGRATS!
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 Posted 05/14/2008  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add closelook to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your time and info Bill, Sooner or later I'll send this coin to NCS OR NGC, I'll post the results. Thanks, Louis
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