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Lot Of 6 Roman Coins - Nero Tetradrachm Doubts

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 Posted 11/17/2018  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jskirwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was going to layer them on top of each other in Photoshop then realized a side by side comparison was enough.
As shown below the reverses are significantly different. While either coin could still be counterfeit the two aren't coming from the same molds.
And in my opinion they look legit.


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 Posted 11/17/2018  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jskirwin, What I meant was not that they are identical but they are similar in the sense that they both have same wear and softness . Also the metal looks similar . So you think both are genuine?

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 Posted 11/18/2018  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jskirwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've only been collecting ancients for 5 years so I am far from being an expert on them. But I believe wear pattern is a weak indicator of fraud since legit coins struck from the same or similar dies will have similar wear patterns. Again, not an expert. Check out the Fake Coin Reports at Forum Ancient Coins - that's a better resource.
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 Posted 11/18/2018  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add travelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've examined this coin forever and the types thereof, it's legit. AlRashid look yours looks to be ok also, I would have a look at the fake reports though - just in case.

P.S. I looked and didn't see a match.
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 Posted 11/18/2018  11:39 am  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks ok in the first picture of it, what was the issue?
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 Posted 11/18/2018  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Guys. I checked forum fakes for nero only few antioch tetradrachms were reported there and they didn't match mine.
By the way I did XRF on this coin and it had 90.5% silver content is that correct amount for nero antioch coins?
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 Posted 11/19/2018  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a note on the interpretation of XRF rrsults:

The ancients could not refine silver or gold beyond about 97% pure.

Modern alloys like .925 silver have only 2 metals:- silver and copper.
Ancient 'silver' coins may have a high silver content, but it is the trace elements that they could not refine out. THEY are what you should be looking for in your XRF analysis.
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I did XRF on this coin and it had 90.5% silver content


@aR, I for one would be really interested if you wouldn't mind posting the results from this analysis. As Sel mentioned, the trace elements are perhaps the most interesting. Thx!
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 Posted 11/20/2018  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks @Sel and @Spence

I attached the result of XRF for this coin. I also attached the image of 2 coins from same seller which he claims coming from same collection. I notice they have similar wear and metal texture. But the patina on the other coins seems to be a hoard patina happened under ground. What is you guys thinking? I appreciate your thoughts.

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 Posted 11/21/2018  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Guys

Does the XRF result is reasonable for this mint and period?

I appreciate someone shed some light on this.
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