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Pillar of the Community
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Nothing we say can convince you that your coin is NOT an 1894-S. (Looks like a 1904 to me!)
If you have studied it for 7 months, and are sure it's a 94-S, then quit wasting time. Send it in and get it over with.
Be sure and post the pic of the slab when it gets back! We will be patiently waiting!
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Bedrock of the Community
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I may be a standout but, I do think it is an 1894 and not a 1904. However, that makes no difference. The point in question is of the mintmark. I see the "S" you mention but, it is not in the proper position for a genuine example and it's too large. In the end, if you must know beyond the collective numismatic knowledge here, then submit it to a TPG. For your sake, I would love to be wrong. I have no ill intention and I would celebrate your find, if genuine.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Thanks spruett001 I've shown it to several people old and young just to see what they thought the date was. Out of 20 people only 1 said 1904 everyone else said 1894.They knew nothing about the history or rarity of the dime. It looks totaly different in person the finish is as shinny as a mirror. Like nothing I have ever seen on a coin. That's what makes it so hard to get a good pick. I'll post a lot better photo just to give you guys a lot better understanding of the condition of the coin it's a very nice coin to be so worn. Thanks again for everyone's input regardless of opinion.Everyone judges the coin by what's (not) present Instead of whats present.Nobody can answer why there are so many marks identical on the coin but are quick to sound off a date that isn't even visable.Guess I'm the only one that played pictionary as a child. I do want to send it to be graded just don't know how much it will cost and when I can afford it. Sure it's a lot more than the two buckles I paid for the dime!haha! Have a blessed day gentlemen!
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Bighomie, just how much do you think your coin is worth? I think it's too far gone to be of any value, other than melt.
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This is a slippery slope in continuing this discussion. It reminds me of a very similar thread discussion(s) last week on the collectorsuniverse forum. A poster claimed to have a very rare Frith Nickel (some famous Nickel I had not heard of) only this Nickel had a delamination error where the mint mark was supposed to be. It was the same thing with pics being posted that proved the never existent mint mark was there. Fred Weinberg got in on the discussion and explained that they are totally different coins. Nothing satisfied this guy. The OP ended up spamming the forums with posts calling everyone Big Dummies. He called Fred Weinberg a Big Dummy. The threads ended up getting deleted on that forum but they were actually entertaining to read if you like watching interpersonal drama from afar. The OP has a simple solution to his problem which is to send it in to ANACS or other TPG company. It's the next logical thing to do anyway as our opinions don't hold any weight if it is indeed the rare coin he says it is. I find it hard to believe if he owns coins that he can't afford the cost. By the way, you people are big dummies!  Edited by chesterb
12/12/2017 07:24 am
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If it were a 1894-s and a TPG gave it even a PO-1 designation, it'd be worth FAR, FAR over melt. Take a look back a few years ago at Johnny54321 (RIP John) when he found more than one 1916 dateless SLQ and they graded PO-1 or AG-3, and sold for significantly over melt. I too had one that ANACs graded PO-1 and sold it for a few hundred bucks. Good luck with your submission, I'm sure we'd all cheer for you and not against you in this quest. It's really, really tough to tell if it is an 1894 or a 1904, but there is certainly a chance you'll be correct. |
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It looks like an 1894 to me, but not an S. The 8 on your coin is lower than the one you are trying to match it too. The "so-called" S is also in the wrong position, as previously mentioned. No amount of discussion here will solve your issue. Will only cost a few bucks to send it to ANACS, and we will all be waiting for the results. |
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If you have studied it for 7 months, and are sure it's a 94-S, then quit wasting time. Send it in and get it over with. Quote:
Will only cost a few bucks to send it to ANACS, and we will all be waiting for the results I have to agree. If you cannot accept what the community is telling you, then please send it for proper verification. |
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I also think it is an 1894, the spacing between the middle two digits doesn't look right to me to be 1904. I don't see an S on the coin, and it is not the same coin as the other, genuine coin.
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Send it to PCGS , might as well go with the bigs.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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PCGS will mark it 1904 or more likely return it as "ungradable".   Bighomie insistence... Dont have any more words to say. Edited by flying_teapot
12/12/2017 1:54 pm
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I don't have a strong opinion whether this is an 1894 or 1904. I don't see the S, but that's just me. I do have an opinion regarding the claims of the OP. As I posted earlier, I don't think there is a remote chance that the coin you have is the Ice Cream coin. Not even a .01% chance. It is in far worse condition. When this point was suggested that by several others above. You said that it has been in circulation for 30 years (since the 80's sale). So you are suggesting that soon after somebody paid a truckload of money on this coin, they somehow let it into circulation, after which it circulated heavily despite being nearly 100 years old, a noticeably different design than the contemporary dimes, and made of silver, which would have been out of place after 1964. Admittedly, silver may have not been picked out as much initially, but when silver prices hit $40+ per oz, this coin was not passing hands several times a day to get worn as it is. You also say: Quote:
It looks totaly different in person the finish is as shinny as a mirror. Like nothing I have ever seen on a coin It seems that you are trying to promote the idea that it is a proof (as all 1894 S dimes are) by suggesting that the finish is different than regular coins. You need to understand that the finish on a proof coin that has circulated as much as yours would be indistinguishable from a business strike coin. The shiny you refer to would probably be from polishing. (Further reducing any value from this coin.) As so many above, I would be very happy for you to find out that this is a previously unknown 1894 S dime. I don't think it is, but would be happy if it were. I do think that your level of expertise, as demonstrated by some of your earlier posts, may lead you down a path of expensive certification, resubmitting when you don't get what you are expecting. Please heed the advice of the friendly, knowledgeable folks here, and stick around for more. |
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PCGS will not grade this coin, the mint mark is not visible, so they (or we for that matter) have no idea as to what mint struck this coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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 (Got a feeling we're gonna need extra popcorn before this thing is resolved!) |
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Taking a step back, this has been a very interesting discussion, and I think that the CCF responded very well. The CCF has enough expertise that it would be my first step if I had some concerns about the identification/ authenticity of any potentially very valuable coin. Chances are that there will be a strong consensus of Yes or No. However, the CCF is not going to be the one to buy a coin if they vote Yes, nor would anyone be likely to buy it on the strength of our opinion. This is where someone really needs a TPG opinion if they want to sell the item, and a Yes vote is a virtual "order" to get a TPG slab. If the CCF votes No, they are faced with the choice between agreeing with us, or disagreeing with us and potentially wasting their money with the TPG. There is no point trying to browbeat the CCF if we say no, since we are not going to be buying it in any case. If someone is quite sure of their own identification skills, there is no point asking the CCF-just sell it or send it to a TPG. All we are trying to do is give people some reassurance that it is/is not a waste of time/money to get a TPG involved. Edited by oriole
12/12/2017 8:56 pm
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