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1897 Four Generations Of The Royal Family

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 Posted 09/13/2018  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenscot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I should have added the details of the obverses paired with the eight "Four Heads" dies:

Dated 1896 32mm with Snowhill address

- Remington Typewriter
- Plain, no rim
- The Diamond Jubilee / 3 shields

Dated 1897 21mm with abbreviated date and address

- The Bon Marche, Sydney, Australia
- Rim only, otherwise blank

Dated 1897 32mm with Snowhill address (1896 die altered)

- The Diamond Jubilee / 3 shields.

Dated 1897 32mm with H. Grueber & Co London

- The Diamond Jubilee / 3 shields.

Dated 1897 32mm with Marsh Brothers Toronto

- Imperial Hotel, Winnipeg, Canada
- Pearcy's Paints, Toronto, Canada

Dated 1897 38mm with Snowhill address

- Gigantic Wheel / Earls Court 1895
- Gigantic Wheel / Earls Court 1897
- Lincoln Stamp Album
- Diamond Jubilee / 3 Shields

Dated 1899 21mm (different layout)

- H. Grueber (self advertisement)
- Lincoln Stamp Album

Dated 1900 38mm

- Pretoria Demonstration, Bexhill On Sea, 5/6/1900.

Other combinations are listed in various catalogues but these may not exist. Before digital photography many listings were narrative and errors may have been caused by misinterpreting others' descriptions.

I would like to see a decent photograph of the Winnipeg piece.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add retiredkper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting! The young child's portrait on the far left is probably the youngest numismatic portrait of the future king Edward VIII known.
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 Posted 08/05/2019  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinluvva to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for a most interesting post. I note that the coin image was copyrighted. The head contains an image of the four Kings while the reverse is either the standard one or contains advertising material from organisation that have presumably purchased the right to have their material put on the reverse of the coin. I would like to learn who manufactured the coin.There is a mention of 37 Snowhill London EC on the coin ( which could be a clue ). I have recently purchased this token from E-Bay
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 Posted 08/06/2019  06:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinluvva to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You may be interested to hear that one of these coins is held by the Victoria & Albert Museum in London, England. Sadly there is no Photograph, but this is the Museum's Accession Record - http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O...ueber-henry/
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 Posted 08/06/2019  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenscot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The link to the piece in the V&A Museum is not one of the Four Generations pieces but is another piece made by (or for) Henry Grueber. It is the Far Famed Cakes commemorative. Note that there is a spelling mistake in that the Y is missing from MAJESTY'S but this doesn't make it rare. The varieties with MAJESTY'S spelled correctly are much less common.

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 Posted 01/20/2025  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buzzardw6m to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I am a bit late to the party. I have just started collecting this series in the past 6 months. Here is a photo of the Winnipeg piece. Considered rare in my reference material.
Cheers!

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Fantastic medal, buzzardw6m, and to the CCF! Thank you for sharing your item with us and reviving this thread. I have one of the standard pieces and was unaware of the advertising ones!
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That is a gorgeous standard piece. I haven't obtained that piece yet. I am waiting to find one similar to the condition that yours is in.
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 Posted 01/20/2025  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, jbuck and buzzardw6m! These are readily available but it seems that prices are wildly variable.
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 Posted 02/12/2025  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bhmtokens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a Four Generations Shellcard Medal - its 38mm in diameter. It also has a slight different look with a beaded ring around the shields and not solid ring.

Based on everything I have read, these medals were struck by The Birmingham Mint for H. Grueber

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Here is one more. It is CuNi, 20mm. That's all I have folks.
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