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Thanks, Spence , I have about 20 coins of the period 1000-1300 , but most without date .I know little of this period so it is impossible for me to date the coin , if it is not indicated when I buy , but I love these coins now because I did not know there was such a variety . albert
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I know little of this period so it is impossible for me to date the coin , if it is not indicated when I buy Well, if you want to open up a couple new threads and post some pics, I'll see what I can do to help you with more precise dating of the coins. Then, when I have absolutely no new information to provide, @bobL will figure it out for both of us.  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Here is a Massa from Ceylon (a so-called "Octopus Man" coin). It can be dated to 1208-9 AD as it was issued under the authority of the infant king Dharmasoka Deva and is attributed as Mitchiner 842, 843, or 844.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Belgium
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That's a realy nice coin.
Good idea for dating my coins. albert
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 You can clearly see the lotus flower on the obverse and the conch shell on the reverse... Nice coin! Paul |
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Thanks for the kind words guys. I think that the octopus man is an iconic coin design and was super-excited to get this one. Moving back the the 12th Century now. Here is a Denaro minted by the Italian City State of Brindisi. While the date is not on the coin, it can be dated to the year 1196 AD. The obv legend is "+FREDERIC REX" and the rev legend is "+. INPERATOR". It is attributed as Biaggi 436.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Belgium
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Any idea how they arrive to date such a coin .,It is a coin of the Hohenstaufen ( the eagle ) and of Frederic II Barbarossa , but how the find the year ? Also a reference to a sale I found when I tried to date my Brindisi-coin , I found finally the exact date ( 1249) in the Corpus nummorum Italicorum XVIII,Fred,129 . albert https://books.google.be/books?id=iW...=biaggi%2043 |
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This is better ; albert
https:// (130915) Not Allowed Due to Copyright Issues/kuenkercoins/docs/a137
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sorry , problems : google: kuenker auction 137 . albert
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Albert, yes I am familiar with CNI, although that is not a reference that I own. As I have mentioned previously, finally getting my copy of Biaggi was a minor triumph.
As to your question about how we can date certain coins more specifically than the overall reign of the issuer, I can't say for sure, but my assumption is that certain design elements or inscriptions were used for only short periods of time. I have observed that this seems to be particularly true for medieval Hungarian coins, but is also the case occasionally for French and Italian coins too.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Moving on to the 1180s, here is a Denier from the French Diocese of Cahors that dates to between 1184 and 1187 AD. The obv legend is "+ oEPIS COPVS" and the rev legend is "+ CATVRCENSIS". It is attributed as Depl. 1163 and Roberts 4664.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Belgium
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Archbishopric Reims . obv : + ARCHIEPISCOPUS , in the middle : . --- GULE/RMUS ---. rev : X REMIS CIVITATIS : in a circle , a cross with two lilies and two crescents . Ref : Poey d'Avant 6071 . About the same decade , but not sure .albert   |
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Two great wine towns (Cahors and Reims)! At least in modern times. Sad to say I know more about the wines of these places than their coins (or ... maybe not so sad  ). I am out for a few more days, but continuing to enjoy as a spectator. |
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I think you are not the only in this case  . albert |
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