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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V2.0)

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Ok well sure the 410s might be hard, but we can worry about that tomorrow. For now, let's enjoy these two excellent coins.
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No other 420s?
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No other 420s?
I've got a bunch of late AEs of Honorius and Theodosius II... even a few Valentinian III ones, IIRC. Will have to check if any of them match the 420s.
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@j1m, ok in an effort to be inclusive, we can hold off dropping back for another day or two so that you can check to see if you've got a contribution for the decade of the 420s.
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we can hold off dropping back for another day or two
You don't need to. Do you have a coin from the 410s? If yes, I'd rather let this continue further; people are waiting for easier decades to come up. If no, AFAIK I'm allowed to post 420s coins until someone posts a 410s coin.
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Ok sure that is fine too. I jsut wanted to make sure that you felt like you could participate.

Unfortunately, I don't have a coin of the 410s. This century is perhaps my lightest in terms of coins. I counted the other day that I only have 11 coins in the 5th century, and these mostly either come from the second half or span way too far of a time period to help with this particular thread. For example, this AE Unit of the Pallavas Dynasty was minted in Kanchipuram pretty much from the beginning of the 5th century right through the middle of the eight century:

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This century is perhaps my lightest in terms of coins.
I'm fascinated (for some reason I don't quite understand) by the late Roman bronzes of (the first half of) the 5th century (Arcadius, Honorius, Theodosius II, Valentinian III, Leo; coins of most of the other emperors of the period are too unaffordable, though I'm still looking for a Zeno or Marcian).
So I have a few dozen, but they're almost all the same kind of thing; I'm not sure I've got even a single 5th century coin that's not a LRB.
[EDIT: I guess the gold imitation technically qualifies, and so might the other two imitations for that matter. Numista puts my Asbar coin into the 5th century, but I've seen dates anywhere from the 1st to the 8th.]

My own lightest (of the twenty-one AD centuries) is probably the 8th or the 13th, though I'm not very confident, having never really tried to catalog my collection, particularly relating to pre-1500 coins (it doesn't help that a lot of my ancient and medieval coins remain unattributed).
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Bump...looking for coins minted in the decade of the 410s.
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Your bump got me this time! I thought we had legitimate movement!
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Nine month bump--here is the first post of 2022 in this thread. Anyone have a coin minted in the decade of the 410s?
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I think I have a LRB that might be from the 410s. I'll probably post it for ID first to be sure that it's what I think it is.

In the meantime, here's one from the 420s...

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Theodosius II, 425-435 AD
AE4 (11 mm, 1.11 grams)
Obverse: [DN THE]ODOSIVS PF A[VG], bust of Theodosius II right
Reverse: CON[COR-DIA AV]G, Victory facing holding two wreaths
Mintmark faint, possibly ANT for Antioch?
Esty 67, Tesorillo 7, RIC 431-9 (439 if Antioch)

This was one of the purchases from the March 2022 visit to the Elektrozavodskaya coin fair. The photos were made shortly afterwards but apparently I never got around to cropping and posting them (until now).
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This is the only type of LRB I could find dateable to the 410s:

http://www.tesorillo.com/aes/049/049i.htm

From my research, it is a very rare type. Most types either ended with the death of Arcadius in 408 or went straight through the 410s and ended with the death of Honorius in 423, apparently. It was apparently a very stable decade numismatically?

Some usurpers did rule only in the 410s, like Maximus, Jovinus, Sebastianus etc. I think VisigothKing posted a Jovinus a long time ago- maybe he still has it?
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This is the only type of LRB I could find dateable to the 410s
That's the one I think I have. Will post for ID if/when I get good pics.

(The legend is mostly gone, so there are several other possibilities, but this seems like the best match. I think the closest other option is an AE2, for one.)
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You might be thinking of the GLORIA ROMANORVM type where the emperor holds a globe, which is common, and dateable to the 390s only. I was only able to find a couple of pics of the 410s type where the emperor holds a shield instead of globe.
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