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 Posted 01/31/2018  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gramps76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm loaded with questions today, sorry. What is the general thought about ultrasonic cleaning? In the little I know about it I believe if you can devise a way to suspend the object metal should not be changed in any way. I may be wrong but I'm investigating everything.
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Probably was from a tiny disruption of the plastic film caused by stapling. Agree you wouldn't want to dip the entire coin for small toning spots on the rim.

Ultrasonic cleaning won't get rid of toning spots.
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Those minor rim toning spots are irrelevant to anyone. I'd leave a coin like that alone. The uglier ones, I'd dip if they have lots of mint luster. The mint luster needs to be very strong or the dipping may result in a dull looking coin. I'd only dip a coin that looks like the mint luster is dripping off the coin.
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I appreciate everyone's comments and suggestions. Unfortunately I am beginning to feel I should have just left these coins where they were. As I look through more and more of them I am finding that most of them are ruined, at least to my eye. Almost every one has these black spots from the plastic envelopes being compromised. Instead of the nostalgia I was looking for I find myself feeling ill about what they have become. There simply isn't a way I see other than spending a large amount of money with professionals to ever make them attractive again. I have not even scratched the surface of what I have but I am sure the rest will all look like these. The only ones I have seen so far without damage are coins that were already dark and not of a high grade. These in the photo all exhibit the black spots as do every other nice coin I have looked at. Excuse my downbeat tone but I really am disturbed by the whole experience. It's like having a beautiful original classic car that's perfect except for the dent in one fender.
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I'm tempted to just clean these spots on the edges myself value be darn ed. What value am I protecting if every one of them is damaged? I ordered new holders. Realistically what's worse, spot cleaning the coins that are black at the edges or having coins with black spots? Some of them are just too far gone but a lot have just enough of this discoloration at the edges to ruin their appearance. If I leave them alone are they still BU? I don't know enough about it to hazard a guess.
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I would probably spot treat them with Verdicare, which may help the appearance a little and may prevent the spot growth. Then I'd just reholder them in new 2x2s.
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The original luster on the majority of these coins is really nice which is why you wouldn't want to clean them
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That's the issue. I wouldn't want to dip or clean the whole coin......most of the coins are beautiful except for some few small spots near the edges. What's really got me is that if even 50 Percent of them were spotted it would still hurt but at least you would be left with some nice ones. I'm finding almost all the silver coins have some damage, at least 9 out of 10. The nickels I've quickly looked at seemed to have fared much better. I haven't really looked hard at the pennies but the few I've seen all look dark. Once again please excuse my inexperience in these conversations, I don't mean to come off short in any way but I'm becoming very frustrated as the extent of the damage continues to register.
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Spots don't ruin coins generally but hacking away at them with whatever method one feels like will. That may seem like a great idea while you're frustrated but you regret it one day and that can't be conserved.

I gave you the answer earlier. Call ICG. Work out a deal with them, their fees are very reasonable and should be able to work out some sort of bulk deal. You can also sell some of the more common/bullion style pieces if you need to to pay for it.
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As I look through more and more of them I am finding that most of them are ruined, at least to my eye.


Baseball is correct. They are NOT ruined. Do NOT CLEAN THEM IN ANY WAY if you want to preserve the value of the coins. If you don't care about how much they're worth, clean them. It's up to you.

I see some proof Franklin half dollars in your picture. If you clean them, the value will instantly be ruined. As I said, it's up to you.
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Please be patient! If you feel overwhelmed then just put them away for a day or two; let a lot of this advice soak it. I would really hate it if you rushed into doing something that could make things worse.

Take a deep breath, it will be okay.
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I'm going to take the advice of the posters who say they are better off left looking as they do than having anything other than professional paid services performed on them. They sat for forty years and at this point I'm going to stash them away again until my next of kin inherit them. I will obviously store them in better conditions than they were stored previously. After taking them out I had briefly thought it might be a neat idea to get into the hobby being that I already had this large collection but I see now that will not be the case. I'm not a rich man so I have no interest in spending lots of money up front or trading large chunks of the collection away to have them repaired by people I don't know anything about. I'm not at all happy with how they look regardless of any other opinions. I've decided it's best to let sleeping dogs lie in this case. I would like to add I had no plans of hacking away at these coins, if I were to have attempted anything I would have been very deliberate in my research. I experimented on 2 coins out of hundreds. Thank you to all who contributed to this thread, I really appreciate your time and opinions. It seems like this site is populated by genuinely concerned and helpful individuals which is refreshing these days.
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You could find a lot of enjoyment in the hobby without spending a lot of money, but ultimately we need to do what makes us happy. It should never be forced on anyone.

I hope you come back to them in time. If you do, we will still be here.
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You've inherited quite a nice collection. I can understand completely why you'd be unhappy with the discoloration, but there was nothing that could be done to prevent it. There's no way you would've known. You did end up making a good decision to not clean them and just store them newly. I guarantee that you will find that the coins will actually LOOK better when you put them in their new holders, especially if you purchase some of those round air tight containers (image attached). Occasionally I find that the old and grubby coin slips will add to the "dirty look" (even though a lot of your coins only have slight tarnish).

My mother actually collected coins when she was really young, and although they were stored in mylar coins slips (instead of the PVC ones that it seems you have), they still gained some discoloration.

My advice to you would be continue with properly storing your coins, but maybe get into doing some coin collecting of your own. Coin roll hunting (or CRH) is a really inexpensive way to find cool coins, and you might be able to expand your collection and improve your coin knowledge! You already have a pretty great head start.

Probably one of the best hobbies to get into, because you never lose money, you only make money. If you ever decide that you've had enough, just remember that it's all currency! Just keep doing what makes you happy!

Hope you're doing well with your coins! Best of wishes!

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