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1884 S Morgan (Coin received, New Pics)

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 Posted 06/04/2008  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"it does appear that they are from Florida just like NNC"

If you want proof, do a whois for https://www.nnccoingrading.com and correlate to Centsles' actual name and address. They're the same person. (This is all publicly accessible info).
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 Posted 06/04/2008  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zohar444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, their website (http://www.centsles.com/about.asp indicates:

We use National Numismatic Certification, LLC (NNC), as our primary certification service, and we believe they offer a high degree of expertise in the grading of any and all coins. If you wish to submit your coins to NNC to be graded and authenticated visit their website at https://www.nnccoingrading.com.


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 Posted 06/05/2008  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter53562 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very sad....looks like someone let greed get in the way of being an honest coin dealer. It's too bad many people have fallen for their bs and more will do so too.
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 Posted 06/06/2008  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffreyice1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin Arrived today! Maybe you can tell more from my scans.

PS It was from a live auction in Easton Montana.


1884-S-Morgan-Coin-Recieved,-New-Pics

1884-S-Morgan-Coin-Recieved,-New-Pics

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 Posted 06/06/2008  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, that looks considerably nicer than the previous picture.
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 Posted 06/06/2008  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zerozero to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I'm hardly an expert but the wear isn't *too* bad.

I'd give it a solid AU.

I don't know how in the world anyone would call it XF.

I can't comment on cleaning but just basing my opinion on the wear of the breast/feathers and her hair, looks like AU to me.
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 Posted 06/06/2008  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It might be lightly cleaned, but not that bad really
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 Posted 06/06/2008  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffreyice1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there is a problem with reflection because I can see the breast feathers with my eye. From what I can see from the top 2 grading companies this is at least a 55 if not a 58. Anyways I'm happy at the price (AU50's going for 230 to 350) and thinking of regrading it with one of the two.

Thanks for the input! Which one?
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 Posted 06/07/2008  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd agree with AU-50 or AU-53 details. There are a lot of small contact marks and it doesn't seem to have any luster. That might indicate it's been stripped of original surface which might cause it to be rejected by the major grading services. If you're willing to gamble, I'd go with PCGS. You'll have to decide whether to crack it out or send it in still in the slab. I think they are more likely to reject the coin if it's in the slab, especially since it's an NNC slab.

For comparison, here's my 1884-S.

1884-S-Morgan-Coin-Recieved,-New-Pics
1884-S-Morgan-Coin-Recieved,-New-Pics

This coin has quite a few contact marks and some hairlines, but it does retain considerable luster around the letters and stars. ANACS called this a no-problem AU-55.

Good luck on the cross-over if you decide to go for it!
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No kidding? That is good info to know and I will be sure to stay away from them.


Before I knew any better I bought a Walker graded MS-65 in a NNC holder. What a joke, not even close. Live and learn.
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