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Why Is This Penny Too Small To Fit Itself?!?

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 Posted 02/23/2018  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newbie234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found the page wrong years,But if a 42 Rupe was struck on a 64 cent then there is a chance!
http://www.error-ref.com/unidentifi...and-purpose/

Edit; The chances are very small,and the coin mentioned was overstruck. So it's highly unlikely. I'm a believer! Just look at some of the things the mint has down over the years.
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 Posted 02/23/2018  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amy939 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Why-Is-This-Penny-Too-Small-To-Fit-Itself?!?

This was the only coin from that list on the link y'all provided that closely matched. What would y'all recommend me to do with this coin to determine it's proper errors? I'm very new to this hobby and don't have a clue on anything except it looks abnormal!
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 Posted 02/23/2018  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With the rim area affected like I see on the images, I'm thinking it was altered. If the coin is smaller, then the thickness I would think would be smaller? But the coin looks normal thickness. Seems like it the planchet was smaller the thickness would be even thinner and the devices would be weakened from the different height of the planchet. I'm not seeing that either on your coin.
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 Posted 02/23/2018  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks to me like it was rolled back and forth and shaved also on one side. Probably caught in some kind of machinery. jmo
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 Posted 02/23/2018  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or an attempt to create an error.
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 Posted 02/23/2018  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could someone have tried spooning it? Literally this began as hitting the edge of a coin with a tablespoon to make a ring or a bridge out of it.
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 Posted 02/23/2018  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to say it is a legitimate error.

It was struck slightly off center due to it being a smaller diameter planchet. The weight is nearly a half gram light also. The rim looking like it does would be due to the planchet being to one side of the dies when struck, the other edge was inside, not completely covering the surface area of the dies and is missing detail.

It is difficult to know with any accuracy just looking at images. Having a coin in hand can make a big difference.
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Off center.
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Might look into Elliptical clips. Close up images are good, but seem to cut off parts of the coin.

Did look at koinpro's list of foreign coinage produced by the US. Shows all three mints were producing for other country's, but the Philly mint was not producing any in this composition or size at the time. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 02/24/2018  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newbie234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just throwing this against the wall to see if any will stick! Could the planchet be for a token instead of a currency planchet?
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 Posted 02/24/2018  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The problem with that is: "Why would it be in the mint?"
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Not tokens for game machines, But commemorative coins,made for a business or remembrance of something. I seen on the mints web page that they make them now. Not sure if they did back then.
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I'm not sure if they make anything out of copper that would be smaller than a cent at the mint. They go for larger stuff on the medals and such.
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I wasn't sure, They didn't really provide much info. I just thought I would throw it out there!
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