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 Posted 02/24/2018  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have perhaps 100 to 150 coins from Russia. These are a few of the better, or older, ones:

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 Posted 02/24/2018  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ammcollect Is it illegal to ship coins out of Russia that are over 50 years old? or to import them into Russia?

Is that why so many ebay auctions restrict sales?
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 Posted 02/24/2018  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flying_teapot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To ship out. Import is legal for old russian coins.
Usually russians don't use ebay, but then do, trying not to send any coins abroad. There's a lot news in russian language about people who get in jail because mailing cheap bad old coins abroad. Officialy it called "cultural value", but in fact it was a rusty ugly copper coins, that don't have a big value at all, and no cultural at everyday thinking.
At all, "culrural value" is not only 50+ years old coins, it's very blurry definition. It also could be any coins before 50 years, if expertise will say it. That's why russians scared to send anything abroad - it's better be cautious with everything and not risk for your own life.
I heard about good experience, people sending 50yrs+ coins to PCGS/NGC, but don't know how they do it. And it's extremely expensive.
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02/25/2018 12:08 am
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ammcollect Laws like that are bad for the hobby. Very few coins are culturally important. Perhaps a unique gold rarity 1000 years old that is excavated as happened in the UK. But all coins over 50 years old is a joke. I am 70 years old does that make me worth anything? A coin that was mass produced in 1958 is hardly important. Even the big copper coins of the late 1770s are so common they are not rare.

This culturally important stuff has gone too far. Politicians make stupid laws because they have no clue what the real world is like. No wonder politicians are now trusted even less than used car salesmen and lawyers.

Actual money should be exempt because it was traded all over the world.
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The only reason why I started collecting Russian coins is because it was hard to find decent souvenirs when I was there around 2000. That's almost 20 years ago.

Ever since then, I decided to buy what I can from overseas. Most of them are from ebay and from US. Back then, Russian coins weren't as expensive as today. If you tell me to start again, I'll throw my hat down. I've slowed down buying them as most of the nicer coins are out of my reach. I'm sure one day my collection will get broken down and get sold eventually. Not particular rare but some are quite scarce. I have not seen a couple for quite a few years.
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 Posted 02/25/2018  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flying_teapot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wished to see someone from Australia, and here's you. Cheers!
It's so difficult as I realized in your country.
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This is one of the coins I got from a Russian collector. I work for a travel company and a colleague gave her my duplicates on a trip to Russia and brought back coins for me when he returned to the UK.

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I have a lot of contact with Russians, as one of my best friends is married to a Russian woman and her family visit the UK frequently. I was best man at their wedding in 2011 and they give me loose change from their pockets from time to time!
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Here are some small highlights

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If you asked me what some of my wish list was back then - you could have bought any of the proof 1834, 1839, 1896 commemorative rubles for around 500 - 1000 USD back then. These days? I seriously wonder if the 1834 commemorative ruble is a cleaned proof coin.
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Wow! All coins except denga are very expensive and even in Russia you can't see them often because of the price. The trird coin is made of moldavian coin, do you know it's history?
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Russian coins?

Checkout my ebay listings this week, there are many interesting items listed as auctions.
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ammcollect: I am aware of the history of the 1795 MM 2 kopek. I also have its sister 1795 MM 1 kopek overstruck over 1762 1 kopek. Moscow Mint was shut in 1789 after overstriking some older coinage. It reopened again in 1795 to overstrike any unuseable coinage. The Sadagura coins were some of them. Because of the hardness of these coins, it is presumed that not many were overstruck as the dies would have worked a lot harder. Survival rate of any of 1795 MM coins are very, very low - perhaps in just hundreds or so. I'm missing the 1795 MM 5 kopek which is much rarer.

The denga coin is actually a lot tougher than what you would imagine - it's overstruck over 1724 kopek which is very scarce in any condition. Bought this coin maybe about 10 years ago - haven't found one it in better condition or affordable.

Speaking of Sadagura coins - here are some of the tougher ones

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 Posted 02/25/2018  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flying_teapot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coinworldtv, sorry, can't give any help with old rubles. If you'll need other help, I could teach you how to post on any popular russian forum. There's should be someone who knows english well and aware of this coins.
gxseries, didn't know it about denga. At all I have very weak knowledge about pre 1850 coins.
Your collection is much more impressive then I thought first time
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 Posted 02/25/2018  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's my new pocket piece.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Russia-1-R...AOSwO6haiWA5
A lowball for sure.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 02/25/2018  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flying_teapot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A lot of people would buy it in Russia for 60$
Great price
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