Australia Predecimal Coinage. Serious Questions Of Authenticity.

"It is only through dialogue, deep listening, and passionate disagreement that we find our way to something larger than a singular and isolated point of view." - Henry Kimsey-House

I have one to show you:



When I seen that my only thought was it's well priced and reasonably good for $100.

Then I zoomed in and seen the Emu head dot and other things.

Are those the same marks you red-flagged on other examples of this date? [Their website (wynyard) has zoom view].

Thanks

UPDATE
Have just got the results back on 2 of the fake shillings (1911 and 1916). Both were graded MS65. Their numbers are 35021221 and 25021222 and I currently have a second example (raw) of each on my desk with matching scratches and other minute defects.
Have also identified a fake 1917 shilling with the same obverse die as a 1914 fake. It has a die crack through IND IMP.
So now have certain fakes for 1911, 1914, 1916, 1917 and 1925 shillings, plus a 1923 threepence.
Fred Lever and myself covered one particular obverse die in the recent issue of Coin and Banknote magazine.

Hi I see that this is a lively topic being dicussed. Great discussion. As for the finning on the coins believe that quite common on early Australian silver coins. Non-expert but that 1911 shilling post on 18th, colouration goes against it, however the age marks/streaks for it as being genuine, but the rim only being worn like that o.o.

They are the PCGS certification numbers (and I mistyped a 3 as a 2, should be 35021222). You can use those images to compare to your own shillings to see if any minor defect matches (like the scratch below left of the date on the 1911 shilling matches the same scratch on several other coins in this thread).
These 2 fake shillings have 2 different obverses to the 4 examples in the recent Coin and Banknote Magazine article. The 1911 reverse has been paired with 2 different obverse dies, that being the one in the PCGS image and the image in the CAB article.
If you do have any shillings (or spot examples being listed/sold) that matches either the obverse or reverse die then please post the image as a database is being built up. The obverse dies may turn up in the known fake dates (1911,1914,1916,1917 and 1925) or in any other date.

You and others here made a case here but published the photos we need in some magazine that very few have seen.

Simply - No. Doesn't work that way.

I do have news and until your posts make sense - it will remain private.

I don't know what coins you are referring to when you speak about MS65 grades, you haven't told us.

You indicated you had purchased three coins from Canada but refused to share a decent image of them here.

Your PCGS numbers returned nothing and were not even typed correctly - so I see no point to posting them.

You speak of a fake 1923 threepence, no idea which one that is supposed to be. Possibly you refer to a coin in Spain which you have never seen.

I believe in explaining things clearly and thoroughly but what I am seeing here is very disappointing.




There is no such thing as an official counterfeit designation by any TPG.