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1957 D - Lincoln Wheat Cent With A Die Chip At "9" And "5"?

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What appears to be chip die near the top of the 9 and 5, is that correct? Thanks in advanced!
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Correct, it's a die chip.
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 Posted 05/16/2018  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Occirats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know but if it is then also consider the right side of the 7
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Wow. Know what is absolutely amazing? That must be some kind of design anomaly of the working hubs. Yours has chips in 9 & 5, and so do a variety of others. My find as seen below differs and CAN"T be a brother because of the progression. The B break happened first. THAT is interesting...why two different dies with similar chip locations...

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I didn't even look at the "b", I'll go check again.thanks for the information!!
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I have several chips in 1957 LWC... in many stages. (seems pretty common)

Some with "5", some with "5 & 9" and others with only "9"... plus a "B" (which didn't know was related).

I was wondering in what order the die chip moved....

So what stage is the only "9" chip? Is this from the same die?
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E4E, The pix I took were from three rolls of 57D BU's I had. I am assuming they all came from a same transport bag of 10.000 originally. This means usually only one or two dies may have been used to produce these. Hundreds of dies were used to produce the years coins, all overworked. What I found of all these were this progression, based on the coins found. I found a lot of the B, some B w/5 and only two B w/both 5 & 9. My stages are based on just those findings. Yes, other dies have other breaks and chips. The OP's coin is one that is a different die, for the B filled in first apparently, his(OP) hasn't the B filled, hence different die similar chip areas.
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Thanks Crazyb0 for your hard work! The "b" appears to be fine without any chip damage...at least its a keeper!
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These are so common on the 1957 cents in particular that's it's almost hard to find one without a chip of some sort.
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@Crazyb0, Denver used the Bliss presses until 2004 or 2005. For cents, they were set up with four die pairs, to strike four coins per stroke. Bulk cents during this era would have come from no more than four different dies, unless a die replacement happened during a run. I have been told that the four-head setup started during WW II, but haven't been able to pin down the year.

As a "totally useless trivia" aside, when Denver replaced the Bliss presses with the Schuler presses, the old Denver Bliss presses were sold to the infamous "Mulligan Mint." I don't know where they went after Mulligan's bankruptcy.
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Stepped in this Northern Colorado boy...


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I don't know where they went after Mulligan's bankruptcy.



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*smack*

Smart-alec! Good one.

One of the auto parts companies also bought some of the Bliss presses. (I think it may have been Federal Mogul or Borg-Warner, but I'm not for sure on that.) At least those probably ended up doing something productive.
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These Die Chips are way too common on the Wheat Cents from the 1950's. The 1950's were a notorious year for extreme die wear as the U.S. Mint would overuse the dies way past their normal life.
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