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How Far Back Can We Go? Fifth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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1664 King Charles XI of Sweden

Type I (GW)
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1664 -- Archduchy of Austria, 15 kreuzer:
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1664 King Louis XIV of France

1/12 Ecu with Juvenile Bust

Paris(A)
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Paris(A) with blundered legends
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Lyon(D)
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1/2 Ecu with Juvenile Bust

Bayonne(L)
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Ecu with Juvenile Bust

Rennes(9) - example I
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Bayonne(L)
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@t360, you have such incredible series of Charles XI and Louis XIV!
It seems to me for Charles there is a bit more variety to the portraits at any point in time, but with Louis the portraits are more homogenous.
Is this the case?
It's been interesting to watch, since with Poland at this time, the portraits of Jan Casimir on a given type (6 groschen are the easiest for comparison), show more variation in the portraits between mints, I think. I don't think anyone here can put up as many examples in a given year as you have shown (except for Petrus' schillings).
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Two Skilling, Denmark 1663

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@t360, you have such incredible series of Charles XI and Louis XIV!


making 1664 another fabulous year

Instead or more kings or battles, I have a funny ending for this great coin year: a jeton celebrating the fact that the people of the old town of Amersfoort dragged a huge stone for miles into the town.

It started as a joke (probably influenced by lots of wine and beer) - a challenge for the city made by Everard Meyster, a well known person in that time.

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The stone (moved during the ice ages over the countryside) was a huge: 9 tonnes. So 400 people were needed to pull it on a sledge into the city from the moors near Soest, about 10 kilometers far. The accomplishment was celebrated with beer of course and made the city famous, giving it the nickname keistad and its inhabitants keitrekkers.

The jeton Dugn.4209 mentions the stone on the obverse 'Palladium Amersfort'
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Amersfoort is a fantastic old town for a one day visit, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amersfoort and of course the stone cannot be missed
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Funny story and nice token to match it.

I will add to giljan's 1663 contributions with this Lithuanian shilling, Jan Casimir, Oliwa mint.
As mentioned earlier by @petrus, these small copper "boratinki" of Jan Casimir are interesting to collectors of Poland coins, for the many mints and variations. As best I can tell, the Oliwa mint produced coins under authority of the Polish crown only in one year, 1663 (and only these small copper solidi). Oddly, Oliwa is in the former West Prussia near Gdansk, not in Lithuania, so there was a significant departure from historic minting practices under Jan Casimir (as we will see in 1661, this was not the first instance).
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So I misted 1664.
For that year, I can only post some solidus, the same as my 1665, except for the date of course
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@Petrus
It's not too late. We would still like to see them.
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Lithuania
solidus 1664
Johan Casimir II (1609-1672)
King of Poland
SOLI.MAG.DVC.LIT1664
SOLIDUS MAGNUS DUCATUS LITHUANIAE:
solidus of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania
IOAN.CAS.REX: JOANNES CASIMIRUS REX: King Jan Casimir
Mintmarks :
Privy mark: HKPL: 1663-76 Jeronimas Kryspinas
TLB : 1660-66 Titus Livijus Boratinis, Tenant;

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Ruler : Johan Casimir II van Polen (1648-1668)
Szóstak = 6 Groszy
1664?
GROS.ARG.SEX.REG.POLO
GROSZY ARGENTEUS SEXTUS REGIS POLONIÆ
six silver groschen of the kingdom Poland
IOAN.CAS.D.G.REX.POL&S.M.D.L
IOANNUS CASIMIR DEI GRATIA REX POLONIÆ ET SVECLÆ MAGNUS DUX LITHUANIÆ
Johan Casimir, by gods grace, king of Poland and Sweden, grandduke of Lithuania
mintmaster: AT: Andrzej Tymp (Tümfe, Tümpfe), mint contractor (1650-1667)
Krakow mint
(z) = bird on horseshoe: 1659-68 Jan Kazimierz Krasinski, Royal Mint director
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Poland 1664
Solidus
Ruler: Johan Casimir II of Poland (1648-1668)
SOLID.REG.POLO
IOAN.CAS.REX
Some examples in the hundreds of variations of 1664
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Poland 1663
Solidus
Ruler: Johan Casimir II of Poland (1648-1668)
SOLID.REG.POLO
IOAN.CAS.REX
Some examples in the hundreds of variations of 1663
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Lithuania
solidus 1663
Johan Casimir II (1609-1672)
King of Poland
SOLI.MAG.DVC.LIT1664
IOAN.CAS.REX
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1 stuiver
1663
West Friesland
WEST FRISIAE 1663
DEVS.FORTI.ET.SP.NOS
DEUS FORTITUDO ET SPES NOSTRA
God is our strength and hope
V.75.7 & V.212.4 - PW 3003 KM # 29
mint master: Gerrit van Romondt
mint mark: flower / rosette
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