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How Far Back Can We Go? Fifth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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here is a French jeton, celebrating the birth of the Dauphin, Louis of France (1 November 1661 - 14 April 1711), son and heir of Louis XIV and Maria Theresa of Spain. Louis was born on 1 November 1661 in Fontainebleau and baptised on 24 March 1662. Louis died when his father was still king of France, so his son, the grandson of Louis XIV became Louis XV.

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lots of history, color and charm on this old jeton acquired for a few euros, which is fun
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1662 Ferdinand Charles, Archduke of Austria

3 Kreuzer
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1662 King Louis XIV of France

1/12 Ecu with Juvenile Bust

Paris(A) with tulip privy mark
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Paris(A) with dog privy mark
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Toulouse(M) with star privy mark
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1/2 Ecu with Juvenile Bust

Bayonne(L)
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Bayonne(L) second example
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Nantes(T)
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Ecu for Navarre with Long Curl

St. Palais
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t360 - You're killin' me with these beauties!
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Thanks Joe!
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1662 -- Kingdom of France, 1/12 ecu:
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Quote:
t360 - You're killin' me with these beauties!


I am dead already (of jealousy....)
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A Chinese Coin with the Powers of a Charm
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Found this on internet:
This is an example of an official Qing (Ch'ing) Dynasty minted coin, meant for general circulation, but which was immediately considered to have the powers of a charm. In the year 1713 AD, to celebrate the 60th birthday of Emperor Sheng Zu (Kang Xi), this special issue kang xi tong bao (#24247;#29081;#36890;#23453;) coin was cast with a bronze of a golden color. A 60th birthday is considered a major event in China. In honor of this milestone, the Chinese character xi (#29081;), which is located below the square hole, was written slightly differently. The character would normally have a vertical line at its left. Also, the part of the character normally written as (#33251;) has the center written as a (#21475;) instead. Finally, the upper left part of the tong (#36890;) character, located to the right of the square hole, has only one dot instead of the usual two.
There are several stories connected with this coin that have been passed down for the last 300 years which have given this coin the power of a charm. The stories have turned out to be historically false but continue to be believed. The different versions of the story basically state that the bronze used in the casting of this coin came from the melting down of gold statues of the eighteen disciples of the Buddha. These disciples were called lohan (luohan #32599;#27721;) in Chinese. Because the metal used to cast the coins was believed to be directly associated with these disciples of Buddha, the coin is believed to have special powers and is usually referred to as the lohan coin or arhat money.
Because of its special charm qualities, these coins were given to children in olden times as lunar New Year money (yasuiqian #21387;#23681;#38065;).
These coins were also considered to represent good luck because they commemorated a reign lasting for sixty years which is a complete cycle of the traditional Chinese calendar and thus symbolic of a long life.
Traditionally, these coins also acted as a keepsake or pledge of love between a man and a woman. Some women would even wear one of these coins tied to their hand in lieu of a "gold" engagement ring.
Up until about the 1940's, there was a tradition in the rural villages of Shanxi Province where stylish young men liked to carry a lohan coin between their teeth. This was an attempt to mimic the tradition of stylish young men in the cities who liked to show off a gold tooth.

And a modern replica:
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Lithuania
Solidus 1661
Johan Casimir II (1609-1672)
King of Poland
SOLI.MAG.DVC.LIT1661
SOLIDUS MAGNUS DUCATUS LITHUANIAE
solidus of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania
IOAN.CAS.REX
JOANNES CASIMIRUS REX
TLB: 1660-66 Titus Livijus Boratinis, Tenant;
Privy mark: bird with ring: 1652-62 Vincentas Gonsievskis
Vilna mint
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Solidus 1661
Christina I VASA (1626-1689)
Last monarch of the house Wasa
Livonia, Swedish occupation
Queen of Poland, Lithuania and Sweden (1632-1689)
SOLIDUS.C.RIGEN.61
SOLIDUS CIVITATIS RIGENSIS
city of Riga

CHRISTINA.D.G.R.S
CHRISTINA.DEI.GRATIA.REGINA.SVECLĘ
Christina, by the grace of God, King of Sweden

solidus = schilling = silins
Riga coin
Contemporary fake (the real one is silver, this is not), struck in Suczava
The date and logo (Wasa) are also incorrect
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Here's our boy Leo the Lip from 1661.


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Following in Petrus' footsteps, 1661 Lithuanian solidus, Ujazdow mint.
As with my 1663 contribution, this is another unusual exmple of a Lithuanian solidus that was minted outside of Lithuania (

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Here is my best condition Lithuanian Schilling from AD 1661:

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I have a sheet of those Christina Riga solidi (soliduses?), most of which cannot be read.

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A better looking example:

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A better looking example:

Both pictures are upside down....

House Vasa: sheaf of grain:
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