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Lithuania Solidus 1627 SOLIDUS.M.D.LITU.1627 SOLIDUS MAGNI DUCATUS LITUANIA solidus of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania SIG.III.D.G REX.PO.M.D.L. SIGISMUNDUS III DEI GRATIA REX POLONIA MAGNUS DUX LITUANIA Sigismund III, by God's grace, King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania (c) - 2 fish 1618-30 Kristupas Narvsevicius Krzysztof_Naruszewicz "Wadwicz coat of arms" Mint: Vilnius Reference: Kopicki 3475 
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@1c5 Quote: TRANS ISULANIA = OVER IJSSEL
Yes, which I didn't expect when I was a kid and first got this coin (I was thinking it was from Transylvania!) It took a lot of manual searching in Krause to find it (no Interwebs at that point). @petrus Quote: Could it not be that the flan was cut from a (square) bar? Perhaps, but this is the only example of this coin being square that I have seen.
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Quote: Here are three different coins from Poland 1627. Nice! That szostak is very attractive. Mine is more worn as are many of these, but has special significance since it was picked up while visiting family in Poland 20 years ago. So I will post more Lorraine testons. First Charles IV (Nancy mint), then his father, Francois (Badonvillers mint)    
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@Tdziemia So I will post more Lorraine testons. First Charles IV (Nancy mint), then his father, Francois (Badonvillers mint) Veri nice coins! 
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Thank you. It's been nice to see @t360 post some, too. I thought I might be the only one out here with these.
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On those two lovely Sigismund III thalers of 1628: Quote: There are some noticeable differences in the obverse legend and portrait when compared to the example posted by @jgenn I don't have this book and it is not yet in the Numista documentation, but it appears these varieties have been cataloged in Jan Dostych, Katalog Talarów Zygmunta III Wazy. Both of these 1628 thalers have the polkozic symbol at 6:00 obv, which makes them, type Dostych28.3 (types 1 and 2 do not have this feature obv). jgenn's with POLO at 5:00 obv, and MAS (for Masovia) at the end of the obverse legend is variety Dostych 28.3.24. I think @t360s with small crosses (instead of dots) between the words in the second half of the legend, is Dostych 28.3.22
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Charles IV, Duke of Lorraine TestonNancy mint, roses in reverse legend @tdziemia's example has crosses in the reverse legend
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As it turns out, there is even a third variety with dots as punctuation (the Numista photo has this type https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33782.html). My reference for Lorraine is deSaulcy, who does not mention these varieties for 1627, though he does mention some for other dates. Am curious if there is a reference with more detailed listing of these varieties for Lorraine Testons .. or if this is a book still to be written?
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Quote: ...a reference with more detailed listing of these variations? Unfortunately, I don't know of any. Does deSaulcy list varieties for Antoine (1508-1544)?
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1627 Sigismund III, Polish-Lithuanian CommonwealthThaler
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He lists how the obverse legend and date location varies through the series. I don't think he mentions varieties within a date. When I get a chance, I'll edit this post by adding a photo of the page.  I do not think this list is complete (deSaulcy was published in 1841), as you can also find on the web a 1527 and 1531 with legend LOTHOR Z BAR DVX, and there is a 1537 with the date in exergue, and I've seen punctuation differnces (annulets , crosses) for 1544.
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1627 -- Principality of Transylvania, 1 groschen:  
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Lithuania Grosze 1626 SIG III.D.G.REX.PO.M.D: L. SIGISMUNDUS TERTIO DEI GRATIA REX POLONIA MAGNUS DUX LITUANIA Sigismund the third, by grace, king of Poland, grand duke of Lithuania GROSS MAY DUCA LIT1626 GROSSUS MAGNI DUCATUS LITUANIA grossus of the grand duchy of Lithuania (c) - 2 fish 1618-30 Kristupas Narvsevicius Krzysztof_Naruszewicz "Wadwicz coat of arms" Mint: Vilnius Reference: Kopicki 3504, Eraser # 1325, KM # 32 
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DREIPOLKER (1/24 thaler=1,5 groschen) 1626 Kurfürstentum Brandenburg- Georg Wilhelm (1619-1640) George William, Elector of Brandenburg (1595-1640) GE.WI.MAR.BR.S.R.I.E. GEORGIUS WILHELMUS MARCHIO BRANDENBURGIS SACRI ROMANI IMPERII ELECTOR George William Margrave of Brandenburg Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire MONE.NO.DVC.PRVS mint: Königsberg cross on heart: 1619-1639: Ernst Pfaler as warden KM# 56.5 
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