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 Posted 01/04/2006  12:16 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add justdidit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've been looking around and came upon something I'm interested in, but before I buy anything, can you guys tell me, is a proof coin, say it has a denomination of $100.00, actually worth at least $100.00? That probably sounds like a silly question but I don't trust myself!

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 Posted 01/04/2006  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Helen, This is a very good question, with many possible answers!Could you be more specific about what your looking at? Some Liberian minted coins for example,(and I'm sure others, specially coins not made of noble metals) have Dollar values on them that do not equal their real intrinsic value. Others have values, such as proof American Eagles that are worth far more intrinsically than their stated value! Mike
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01/04/2006 12:30 am
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 Posted 01/04/2006  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justdidit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok..one's a canadian coin with some gold in it (about 58%) and has a certificate of authenticity and the other also has gold in it (.900) from the central bank of Bahama with a certificate as well.

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 Posted 01/04/2006  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by justdidit

Ok..one's a canadian coin with some gold in it (about 58%) and has a certificate of authenticity and the other also has gold in it (.900) from the central bank of Bahama with a certificate as well.

Thanks!



Hard question to answer when we don't know where you are from.
The Bahaman dollar is equal to the American dollar in conversion rates.
The Canadian dollar is equal to a little less than the American dollar in conversion rates.
A Fiji dollar is worth way less than American dollars in conversion rates.
so depending on whare youare from you have to determine the face vale of the coin in reference to your own currency.
Then you can decide on the quality (grade) collectability of the coin in question etc.

So one hundred dollars may be equal to the same, more, or less than one hundred dollars.
Please give us a little more information.
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 Posted 01/04/2006  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Helen, I guess what everyone is trying to say is "what kind of coin are you looking at and what is the country of issue?" Many of us have coin guides going back for over 400 years so we have some idea what the coin is worth and whether or not they even made proofs in any particular coin. We would love to help you out as $100 bucks can be spent on many worthwhile items and by the same token it could also be spent on something that is worth far less!!!
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 Posted 01/04/2006  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justdidit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I should have explained myself a little better lol I'm going to rephrase my question. Is a $100.00 canadian "proof" coin worth at least $100.00 in canadian currency if it has been issued by the RCM? For example, the 1988 $100 Bowhead Whale coin. Again, I know it sounds silly but I just want to be sure!





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 Posted 01/04/2006  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Canadian 1988 Bowhead Whale $100 gold coin celebrates a Canadian national treasure. It is composed of 0.583 gold and .4167 silver. Weights 13.338 grams with a diameter of 27mm and a thickness of 2.15mm. The gold piece was issued at a cost of $255.00 Canadian and was valued in the 2004 Charlton Catalog of Canadian Coins at $160 in PR-65. Now that has all changed as the price of gold has risen so it is safe to say the coin is WORTH more than $100 in Canadian Funds. This coin, along with all other commemoratives, carry a denomination value as required by their respective governments and that value is basically meaningless as no one would spend a Silver Eagle, which carries the denomination of one dollar, as the silver content is worth about 8 times that amount today? Gold commemoratives carry many different denominations but with gold at $530 an ounce, at this time, those values mean pretty much nothing. The U.S. 1/10 ounce gold coin (smaller than a dime) carries a value on its reverse stating $5 dollars but its current market value is well above $50 each! These coins are made stictly for collectors and investors and not as spendable money as the precious metals involved usually by far exceeds the monetary value on the coin. Hope this helps you out as the Canadian commemorative is worth much more than a $100 to a collector or investor! Actual mintage for the gold Bowhead Whale was 52,239 coins!
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 Posted 01/04/2006  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justdidit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Terry! I know I have to get out of the mode about denomination values lol I can see that gold coins are being bought and sold at more or less content value. Hopefully, if I apply that principle, I'll be able to make some decent buys! I'm growing increasing fond of the gold coins!
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 Posted 01/04/2006  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
May I offer a suggestion? It really sounds as if you need to do a little more studying rather than buying coins. Of course you are not alone in this. Many love to see the pretty coins in hand, but find out later that they could have bought better with just a little info.
You have found a good site with plenty of people willing to help, so use them.
I would suggest that you pick a country or series to collect, and pick up a book. It isn't as much fun as buying coins, but can save you quite a few headaches and even a few dollars along the way.
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 Posted 01/04/2006  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
National Dealer has given you some very good advice concerning all coins, not just the gold! Precious metals and collector values, to a new comer, can be a little difficult to understand at times so nothing is more important than getting knowledgeable help, both on your own, and from friends here on this forum. Everyone here, at one time or another in their collecting life, has made a costly mistake, or should we just say boo-boo? Together we can help eliminate such boo-boos but having an up to date guide book is really a blessing 24 hours a day! Knowledge is the KEY to any collection!
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 Posted 01/04/2006  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justdidit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are totally right of course and rest assured that I'll be buying the books before I buy anymore coins lol Looking around these past few days has been an eye-opener for sure, quite overwhelming! I'd love to collect some coins besides the American State coin series and this site has helped me narrow down the area I'd like to approach. I'll be doing a lot of studying, I promise! lol

Thanks for putting up with my dopey questions :)
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 Posted 01/04/2006  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well you set me up for this so I have to say it! There is NO such thing as a dopey question, only dopey people who don't ask questions! Feel free to jump in at any time as everyone here will give you the best advice they possibly can. Coin collecting can be very rewarding in so many ways so it is important to find those rewards and enjoy the dickens out of it!
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