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Pillar of the Community
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This is going to sound harsh, but just telling the members here "google it yourself" doesn't usually go well. Please provide some facts for us as we can't find a lot of info about these. Thanks.
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New Member
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I really wish I could help out!! Little is known. The company seems to have been around in the late 80's owned by John Blumhofer I believe and the images that Google provides when you search the company name is all I have! I did sell one to a man who claims to have owned three examples in his life but sold them acquired one from me. He is pleased and is top bidder currently on 2 others I have listed. If he owned examples of this slab before and now has the 1 he aquired from me says they are what they should be what does that say? Man I wish I could be more helpful with better answers but I just don't know!!
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Moderator
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 to the Community, USNAFguy! Quote:
No offense, but we recently had a thread where someone replied to a question with something along the lines of "google it yourself". Quote:
This is going to sound harsh, but just telling the members here "google it yourself" doesn't usually go well. Generally I would agree, but in USNAFguy's defense, we discourage new members from posting links and copyrighted material so this would be seen as an acceptable alternative. With that being said, USNAFguy, you are free to post any supporting links you have in this topic.  |
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See all readily available information from Google search I ran. That is about all I know. Hope it helps
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New Member
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What I am about to say may sound harsh but I am not understanding how this guy can just slander someone with no proof of any wrongdoing and scare those who are interested in these? I am a free speech fan myself but this is nuts! Evidence please? Or I would like an apology from that member and his accusation withdrawn! That is what would be right
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Those are similar to what I found. Sale listings offer only pictures with no supporting information about the history of the company itself. The NGC thread is better, and I saw that one in my own search -- it may also be linked to some other thread here (which could be what you were referring to).
It helps a little. I was just hoping there's a lot more out there.
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Valued Member
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Hey USNAFguy do you want to go ahead and admit this game now?
You apparently don't realize who I am. The name "Track" sounds familiar?
I was 99.999% sure but wanted to be 100%.
So I created a Facebook account and messaged this guy. I posed as a dealer who wanted to join his little game of putting coins in these pretend holders and selling them for huge premiums to people thinking they are getting a rare slab.
He played coy but it didn't take long for him on Facebook chat to agree to reach a deal with me. I told him I could get idiots at coin shows to pay good money for these as they would think it was some "rare slab". I negotiated with him on how many USNAF slabs he could quote "supply me". He even agreed to cut me a deal if I provided the coin and he would put it in a USNAF holder. We even set timelines.
You are caught "Bryan Watkins".
Do you want me to post the chat logs because the Postal Inspectors have them now as they investigate you for mail and wire fraud.
Edited by Sheldon Overton Baby
08/02/2018 4:37 pm
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Yes of course I remember you "brass tax" guy! Twist anything into what you want it to be. I will sleep well tonight as a honest person. you seem to have no issue lying whatsoever. And I am certain I am in no trouble for anything at all. All I did and will continue to do is offer a piece of numismatic history to those who have interest. Keep it up though and you might end up in jail!
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Valued Member
United States
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"Bryan Watkins"you got caught. You agreed in detail to putting coins I provided (posing as a dealer) into these USNAF slabs. I even asked if you were the only ones with these holders and you said you were "exclusive". You are making these slabs or have a partner doing it. You played coy but when I told you I could sell these at shows you saw a new opening as you have only sold these online in the past. I knew you were a fraud when you listed these and ebay removed them and nearly instantly you posted more in a second count. Guys and gals: how many non-scammers do you know that have multiple ebay accounts ready to go on a whim to sell coins? The Postal Inspectors suspect you of mail and wire fraud and believe you are not using your real name. You tried this before a few years ago and (smartly) laid low. Now you have over played your hand. You drummed up interest playing a novice who just "stumbled" on these coins. You must be getting more and more suspicious people asking questions and are nervous you over played it and your scam is over. You should be more worried about your coming arrest. Edited by Sheldon Overton Baby
08/02/2018 5:02 pm
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Well that should make these more rare! you sir are a ridiculous accuser. I must bow out of this nonsense. I helped provide all the information I had and yes I did indulge some of that silly  you were putting out there after all it was entertaining but if you will please post our chat that would be wonderful so you can expose your own lies. Nevertheless goodbye! |
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Forum Dad
United States
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Do you collect and sell these on ebay USNAFguy? |
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United States
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Why goodbye USNAFguy?
Why not stay?
I handed it over to LE. You have the chat logs. Come on your piece of human garbage: post them. Prove me wrong. Prove the full chat.
Scroll down to the bottom when you agreed to place coins I provided into USNAF slabs. Post that and tell me how I am "twisting it".
I also like how you can't keep your story straight in you post you say:
" yes I did indulge some of that silly you were putting out there after all it was entertaining but if you will please post our chat that would be wonderful so you can expose your own lies."
So which is it?
You are saying 2 different things. Before I am "twisting" your words about our Facebook chat. Now you seem to make an admission it happened (it being you agreeing to place coins inside USNAF slabs you make) but you were just playing along?
Which is it?
That latter defense sounds like those guys on To Catch a Predator: "Yes I had sexual communication with that 13 year old but it was just a gag. I was goofing around."
You think that legal defense works much?
Furthermore, so you mean to tell me that somebody posting as a coin dealer contacts you out of the blue and in good detail negotiates a deal for you to supply these USNAF slabs and commit fraud and you just "indulged" it?
HA HA HA HA
I admit: you are not a fool. You are clearly an experienced scammer but you got greedy this time.
As anybody would guess as somebody who got caught red handed: you get flippant and run away.
Classic.
Edited by Sheldon Overton Baby
08/02/2018 5:05 pm
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The coins will remain on ebay good luck in the pursuit of bad guys but as of right now this idiots rants are not going to affect my choice at all. |
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