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My Own Drawing Explaining What A Cud (Major Die Break ) Is In My Own Words.

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Here's my drawing, explaining what a Cud (Major Die Break) is. Here's what I wrote on my drawing. " Cud (Major Die Break). A Cud (Major Die Break) is a Die Break that involves the rim and at least some parts of the field. If the die isn't taken out of service in time, the Cud will get bigger, as the die continues to strike coins, and the die will break apart more. Drawing by David Curfman (AKA Errers and Varietys on CCF)." This post is meant mostly for new coin collectors starting out. Let me know what you think, and any feedback or suggestions would be great, if needed.
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while the effort is appreciated, I am sorry but I see no benefit to this at all.
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That's okay silverwolf. I appreciate your feedback!
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I think illustrations of the die faces (one pair in working order and the other broken), paired with matching images of the coin's obverse and reverse (one coin is okay, the other is showing a Cud and weakness of the other side), would be excellent in visualising how Cuds happen. Something like:
Normal, repeat for Cud condition:
Obv die
Obv coin
Rev coin
Rev die
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Thank you for the suggestion Altaria! Sure, I'll post a real picture of a Cud I found CRH. Although, I don't have a picture of a broken die though.
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I don't have a picture of a broken die though.


Picture from Mr Potter


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Thank you very much Mark for providing a picture of what a broken die looks like! I appreciate it! I think that this is going to be transformed into an awesome and very educational thread for great information for viewers, if we can keep this thread going!
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For the die, you can also take a line drawing of a coin, mirror it, and black out some parts to represent the Cud areas.
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Altaria, thank you for your suggestion! I should do that tomorrow later in the morning. Maybe I can add to my original drawing possibly? I'll update this thread tomorrow with an additional drawing of the reverse side.
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You can! There's still a lot of blank space around that drawing of yours. I suggest including actual pictures of coins, so it's easily visible what a Cud means (also easier to show that reverse weakness). Just had another idea: the other die could be shaded in a different colour to signify an area that is unpaired now that the other die is broken, to match where the weakness is.
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while the effort is appreciated, I am sorry but I see no benefit to this at all.

, I am sorry , it looks like a third grader's drawing and homework. There are ample detailed articles by experts readily available.
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David, your effort is appreciated. The love for this hobby is apparent!
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Thank you Altaria, Chase, and Jim! Your feedback is appreciated! As it goes, my drawing skills aren't very good (I have never been great at drawing unfortunately). I think it's pretty funny how I'm 19 years old, but I draw like a 6 year old! Oh well, I love this hobby a lot, so it was an attempt to draw something useful hopefully.

To make this thread more useful, I'm going to add screenshot images, taken off of cuds-on-coins.com with my Chromebook.
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Nice effort put forth...appreciated.

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Thank you Kurrency Ken! I trying my absolute best to make this thread as useful as possible. My love for this hobby is pretty apparent as you can see.
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Line drawings should be straightforward, just pull up any random picture and trace the outlines. A little cheating when it comes to drawing, but easy.
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