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Is This A True Sanfransico Mint Mark, If So What Happened To It (1944-S LWC)

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It might actually be a counterfeit coin trying to pass as a 1944 steel transitional error. The lettering looks off as well.

With the mintmark being incorrect and the weight being too light to be a plated coin, it's likely a fake coin.


Also, here's a link to the San Francisco mintmark styles:

http://www.varietyvista.com/01a%20L...20Styles.htm
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 Posted 09/26/2018  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is the real McCoy then you have an expensive cent.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does it adhere just lightly to a magnet, or strongly?



to the CCF!
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What type of attraction? Slightly affected or jumping to a magnet. Plating with some metals can have a slight attraction. Steel you have to pull from a magnet.
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strongly, I can pick it up through a plastic pocket. yes that's what conclusion I came to (being a fake), this information is easy to look up, also the amount for a San Fransico steely is so great, its just logical to call it fake. Apparently, as I have taken it to a coin dealer, there may be signs of it being cast. On the side a feather of material is sticking out and what looks as though the material has oxidized and has a rough appearance. Although also has signs of the die pressing. It's a very well thought out fake and for me, very hard to judge. Thanks for your time though.
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it was purchased off ebay for 28 us dollars - wasn't expecting much, but boy, did it give me a rush, when I had received it.
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Be thankful you didnt pay more than $28...
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I 100% guarantee you it is fake. It has the very easy to see die chip on the left wheat stalk found only on (many, many) counterfeit Lincoln cents.
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The 100 gram weight is to set your scale to zero. Then you weigh the coin by itself.
Don't waste your money sending it to a grader. and to CCF
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Great find nss, idk how I didn't notice that. Yep, 100% Chinese counterfeit, that die chip by the left stalk is seen on many Chinese fake LWCs. Better than the usual ones though, most of them look much worse than this.
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nss-52 beat me to it.
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As 1796nopole said that reverse has been used on many different fake Lincolns. It is known on all the early S mint coins, 14 D, 22 D and 22 plain, 24 D, 26 S, 31 S, 43 copper, 44 steel and 55 DDO. It probably comes on others. If you see that chip you are looking at a fake.
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On most of the Serbian fakes they don't have this die chip there. But on two different ones for the 1909-S VDB examples, one did and the other didn't:
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These looks like the 1973 cent obverses with the Spock ears?

So if the chip is there, know that it is a fake, don't think if it doesn't have it is real, as the Serbian examples that are fake don't all have that die chip. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't.

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