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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I should weigh in here since this directly affects me, who was paired against jbuck. I think we should just declare the entire round null and void and just re-do the round with a new coin that cannot be tracked and keep jbuck in the contest. I would not be in favor of him forfeiting to me. All previous coins in this contest, as far as I know, could not have been tracked successfully, so this was one exception. I do think, that in the spririt of the contest, that one can use the internet to try to arrive at a "guess", but in this case, the searching led to the exact price. jbuck should be kept in the contest because it was never explicitly stated that he couldn't search the polish ebay site or wherever he found it. That was good detective work on his part and I'm sure he probably got very excited about finding the exact price. Since you ended the round early because of this issue, others in the round hadn't all gotten their guesses in. So I think the best decision would be to just re-do the round, with a new coin and make sure it cannot be directly tracked to that auction. As for the other questions about how to run the contest, that is entirely up to you, but I like the way this contest has been running. KEEP jbuck IN!
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Moderator
 United States
189053 Posts |
Man, I am feeling the love! Thanks mycrob and everyone, you are all what makes this the best forum ever! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1031 Posts |
Wow! Looks like a lot happened since yesterday. It doesn't matter to me what happens since it's all for fun. I won't have computer access from 9/26 to 10/5 so if something happens in that time I'll be a no show.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5318 Posts |
wow...this sure looks like it's been lively! Guess I missed the fun!
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Rest in Peace
United States
1729 Posts |
What mycrob said. Let's back up and start over again.
However, I wouldn't pay more than $1,044 for that coin. Even if I had $1,045 to spend on coins. Which I don't.
jbuck, you scamp ... remember what happened to Till Eulenspiegel!
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
10743 Posts |
I'm for starting over.  This has been a lot of fun.  With jbuck, and everyone else in it of course. 
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Pillar of the Community
 Poland
3201 Posts |
Quote: I would suggest that future playoffs with head to head be changed so that the person who guesses first does not have the disadvantage of his opponent guessing $1 higher or lower, perhaps by having a different but similar coin for each opponent to guess at. nod2003 has a very good point here  . Let's see the example of pls (because his was the first guess). So, pls has to guess the price from thin air .. while his rival who waits till the end of the round will only have to decide MORE than pls or LESS - 50% chance of success. It's rather not possible to find 2 coins of the same type and approximately the same grade ending the same day here, unless you want all your coins to be Polish  . An other way would be to: * make all rounds head-to-head, * but without anyone knowing who is his next opponent. Therefore, the advantage of guessing late would be largely eliminated, and double guesses (two people guessing the same amount) would be permitted. The pairs would be generated automatically and then shuffled just to be sure it's random. The number of rounds would be directly related to the number of participants. I have prepared a grid for this and it doesn't make me any more trouble  Quote: I won't have computer access from 9/26 to 10/5 so if something happens in that time I'll be a no show. Thanks for that information, in fact I was planning to have it started in the week of Oct. 6-12th.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Quote: I would suggest that future playoffs with head to head be changed so that the person who guesses first does not have the disadvantage of his opponent guessing $1 higher or lower, perhaps by having a different but similar coin for each opponent to guess at.  I would suggest there is no advantage since the answer is not yet known! 
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Rest in Peace
United States
2668 Posts |
From the initial dozen rounds: Running Total points 1) 8 pts - docsfishn 2) 17 pts - docsfishn 3) 24 pts - Parklane64 4) 35 pts - Parklane64 5) 36 pts - Parklane64 6) 42 pts - docsfishn 7) 43 pts - docsfishn 8) 49 pts - dan8402 9) 51 pts - dan8402 10) 55 pts - b_j_w_79 11) 56 pts - b_j_w_79 12) 64 pts - b_j_w_79 Closest per Round Points 1) 8 pts for - docsfishn 2) 13 pts for - dan8402 3) 13 pts for - Placasador 4) 11 pts for - Parklane64 5) 13 pts for - b_j_w_79 6) 15 pts for - dan8402 7) 5 pts for - pls 8) 15 pts for - TimJing 9) 11 pts for - onejinx 10) 15 pts for - 1337 11) 9 pts for - onejinx 12) 15 pts for - nod2003; CoinHunter53562 highest point holder - 64 pts - b_j_w_79 winner of the most rounds -- docsfishn Please PM me with mailing addresses and preference of two (2) items from the four below: California gold niblet a Churchill a walker JIM money Hey, DL20K, PM me your address for your lump of coal.  Also any pointers for mailing items to Poland. And I think Susan and Bobby deserve something for hosting this great forum! I have their address.
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Pillar of the Community
 Poland
3201 Posts |
Thank you  ! Due to the unpredictability of the PM system I'll post a note here that I've sent it. But could you elaborate on what is JIM money? 
Edited by DL20K 09/24/2008 12:57 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1231 Posts |
JIM is Japanese Invasion Money.
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Valued Member
Australia
414 Posts |
Thanks Parklane pm sent 
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Moderator
 United States
189053 Posts |
Quote: jbuck, you scamp ... remember what happened to Till Eulenspiegel! It is quite possible he never existed. I made the claim in a previous thread that I was an AI program using the Forum as a real-time Turing test, so I might not exist either! If he did exist, then I find it unlikely that I (like he had allegedly) will die from the Black Death. Then again, in this world, all things are possible.  One quick comment on the head-to-head. I do not think the problem is in having the two opposing players guessing the same coin. It becomes an over-under, coin-flip. Nothing to devious about that. The problem might be that using the same coin for all of of the matches; but even that is not really a big deal as long as DL uses coins that are not visible too searches. Using a current auction and ending the round before it closes has the problem that late guessers will be closer to the end price. I will have to mull this over some more; it has been a long day! 
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Rest in Peace
United States
1729 Posts |
I will state that the amount of fun here could be inversely proportional to an increased amount of rules and regs.
I'm STILL having fun; and I don't mind going first. Hey, I'd even enjoy going up against Till - I mean, jbuck!
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: I will state that the amount of fun here could be inversely proportional to an increased amount of rules and regs. A truth that cannot be denied. Quote: Hey, I'd even enjoy going up against Till - I mean, jbuck!  I love this place! 
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