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 Posted 08/14/2013  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Here are the seven (7) most recent 1907 NNC High Relief $20 Staints from the last 60 days sold by Centsles according to ebay.


Suspicious to say the least. Or they have made so much money from duping folks with their basement grading company by selling overgraded coins, they used the profit to buy a bunch of these. But really how often do you see that many High Relief Wire edge rim Saints anywhere? Heck even the big players like Stacks & Bowers, Legend, Superior don't have more than one or two in a six month period.
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 Posted 08/16/2013  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It wouldn't floor me to believe that they're selling them to themselves to enhance the coins which appear in their Feedback.
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 Posted 08/17/2013  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm I had not thought about that. I could see some differences in the pieces, but can't tell positively. Could just be jpeg compression artefacts. I thought thre all looked like the same coin. For that kind of money I want to see much better photos and be dealing with someone with a known ethics quality like Heritage or Great Collections, etc. not a known basement self-slab company, that's for sure. I owned a high relief with the roman numerals once for about 2 weeks, sure wish I could have kept that coin, it was amazingly beautiful, but it was way too much money and I wholesaled it out in a deal pretty quickly.

Oh to be wealthy enough to keep all the cool things I've stumbled across back in the days, Gobrecht dollars HR Saints, PR gold, Territorial gold, Proof Type, etc.
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 Posted 05/07/2015  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pauldirk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Centles was mentioned in an article in the canadian coin news paper this month. I highly suggest you all read it. There was also a VERY important article on counterfeit coins. Plus a lot of other stuff that would help to inform coin collectors. Myself, I would never buy a coin.slabbed in a holder by an unfamiliar grading company.Not on your life
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 Posted 05/07/2015  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could be the same coin being returned by unhappy buyers.
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 Posted 01/10/2017  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fzondlo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN ACTIVE LEGITIMATE COMPANY.
I THINK IT'S OWNED OR IS "CENTSLES" WHO SELLS QUESTIONABLE COINS ON ebay.
STAY AWAY.
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 Posted 09/30/2017  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add altakid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to everyone for their comments on NNC I was looking at a few coins that they have on ebay but I will bid low as I thought that they were over graded as well. This on is graded as an MS-67
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Overgrading is the LEAST of the problems with NNC.

Worst is grading fakes/counterfeits as real.
Then there's the grading of cleaned/altered coins as original.
Finally comes overgraded coins.
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I just had 4 coins delivered that I bought from centsles.
All in the NNC holder.
I'm very pleased with the coins.
They all got cracked out, and I paid no attention to the grades.
Buy the coin, not the holder.
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Chute72:
How were the edges on those cracked-out coins? I have personal experience with NNC coins that looked problem-free in the slabs but had filed rims or other damage that couldn't be seen until the coins were taken out.
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Aside from a cold casting with flow pbms on the Anamese coin, I see nothing untoward.
It and the Nepalese coins got some Verdi-care, and look much better.
The Peace dollar is a VAM-10A with circumferential cracks in the die, both obverse and reverse.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-D-PEA...p=true&rt=nc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEPAL-VS19...p=true&rt=nc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEPAL-VS19...p=true&rt=nc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ANNAM-VIET...p=true&rt=nc

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