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1859 Cent In Brass? Does Anyone Know The Specs?

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 Posted 05/12/2019  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This was the "gun" used: Thermo Niton XL3. It's what they use for testing Copper pipes and wires
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 Posted 05/12/2019  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The TPG's have not publicized what alloy they consider brass. Over the years, through various conversations over several coins, I have come to think it is >10% zinc, but do not know for sure.

Chuck Moore once owned the one I posted on the first page of this thread. He told me it was 15% zinc +/-, but I never saw the actual test results and it has never been out of the PCGS holder to be tested again.
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 Posted 05/12/2019  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My neighbor-friend is a Tokens and Medals dealer, since QEII Fillet Head issue days. He sees someone about 75mi away who tests all of what my friend needs testing. I don't know what is used, but he's agreed to take it and see what's what. I didn't say anything about this discussion; I just said that it "looks funny". Whatever it is, I'll post. I admit, that when I saw the amt. of Cu shown by the Niton instrument was well-above the 90% threshold, I lost interest. There appeared to be a chunk of Selenium, and trace elements after that. So, two people without anything at stake will test it and that will be that.
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 Posted 05/12/2019  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll post the PCGS label (when I find it) so that anyone can see what it looked like certified
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 Posted 05/20/2019  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any results on this yet?
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 Posted 05/20/2019  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not yet; probably next week
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 Posted 06/27/2019  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any results yet?
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 Posted 06/29/2019  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Be interesting to see what they grade it as this time
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 Posted 06/29/2019  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd like to know if there actually is a vine break at 7. Even if there is a tiny one, it is a very early strike.
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 Posted 07/26/2019  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At this point, I am guessing it is not brass.
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 Posted 07/28/2019  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@whatdowehavehere, Would you be willing to post high resolution photographs of the following specific areas of your coin?
the "T" in VICTORIA
the "GR" in GRATIA
the "G" in REGINA
Leaf 6
Leaf 13
The "9" in the date

I suspect that you have PC59-36a2, which is obverse die 36a and reverse die H2. If so, you may have die state 1.

Thanks!
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