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Antoninus Pius..big And Small

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Generally speaking, Roman first brass sestertii get a better price if Fine, than denarii in VF do.
The bigger the coin, the more sensitive to circulation wear, and thus scarcer for the same grade.
..Very true!..And really glad you said that as this new addition,although only an AS isn't of the highest quality but quite a scarce type..

Here's a new addition to the Antoninus Pius set....
Quite a rare early emission. There were 2 types minted, Bare headed and Laureate..
Antoninus Pius AD 138-161. Æ As (27.1mm, 8.14 g.)..Rome mint, struck AD 139.
Obv. IMP T AEL CAES HADRI ANTONINVS AVG PIVS, laureate head right.
Rev. P M TR POT COS II S-C, Fortuna standing left, holding rudder (In mythology the rudder, which the goddess can steer, represents control of the changeable fortunes of life) and cornucopia (The symbol of plenty).
RIC II 533c (scarce)..Minted 139 AD , without globe and COS II rather than COS III.

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As always thoughts appreciated.
Paul
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 Posted 04/24/2022  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats on the rarity. Good looking coin with a nice patina.
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Thanks Bob...
Yes it's a strange transition moving from the sharp detailed Denarii to the more subtle renditions of the middle Bronzes..The strike under the chin of Pius actually very very slightly pierces the coin. Holding it up to a light you can just see a tiny bit shining through, so I've filled this with Renwax to hopefully keep it safe..It looks as if this was done in antiquity.
One of the details I love about this coin is the eye, really focused! As you said it does have a lovely patina and as a side note I didn't actually know it was rare until after I'd purchased it so a big bonus.
Paul
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I don't know how I missed this very informative Antoninus Pius thread, Paul.

There are some very attractive and beautifully detailed coins over the three pages, and a definite a "wow" factor with the very large bronzes.

You are on a roll at the moment.
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There are a lot of great coins here, and a good list of Antoninus Pius bronzes. Since sestertii are hard to get in good condition, I only have one, and it's a worn Commodus. There are several of Antoninus Pius I want to get but whenever I target one at auction, it seems to go out of my reach.

So, I only have a denarius and an as of him. I will post the as, since this must be the only Antoninus Pius thread I haven't posted it on yet.

Antoninus Pius As, 154-155
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Rome or Britain. Bronze, 8.6g. Laureate head right; ANTONINVS AVG PIVS P P TR P XVIII. Britannia seated left on rock, resting head on hand; arms in background; BRITANNIA - COS IIII around, SC in exergue (RIC III, 934).
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That's a lovely example John!..
Apparently struck during Pius' visit to Britain in 154/5AD using a travelling mint.
A difficult type to find and can become quite expensive with quite worn coins reaching 150 bucks...
An interesting type with one of the first depictions of Britannia seated, this portrayal was supposedly used as the influence for the modern depiction of Britannia on British coins, starting with the farthings and half-pennies of Charles II, introduced in 1672.
Thanks for sharing......Paul
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Awesome bronzes, everyone!

I don't have any big bronzes of Antoninus Pius (I'd love to have one!), so here's a very small bronze probably from his reign...

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Syria, Antioch ad Orontem, civic issue
2nd century AD, probably in the reign of Antoninus Pius
Obverse: bust of Apollo (?) right, illegible legend around
Reverse: lyre, A above, ETO (retrograde) and date (not sure which) below
11 mm, 1.32 grams
cf RPC IV.3 7199
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Apparently struck during Pius' visit to Britain in 154/5AD using a travelling mint.
One of the first depictions of Britannia seated, this portrayal was supposedly used as the influence for the modern depiction of Britannia on British coins, starting with the farthings and half-pennies of Charles II, introduced in 1672.

Thank you. Yes I believe the theory is that the cruder, smaller, lighter issues (about 8.8g) were struck in Britain, while the better ones were struck in Rome for use in Britain. What looks like less detail on my coin compared to some others suggests (with the weight) that mine was struck by the travelling mint.

Charles II's Britannia was modelled on one of Hadrian's, I think. I have a rough copy of one of his. (Actually, it was modelled on Charles II's mistress).


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I don't have any big bronzes of Antoninus Pius (I'd love to have one!), so here's a very small bronze probably from his reign

Yes these don't often get a mention, probably because the date range is too wide to pin them on an emperor. But I assume most are from the Antoninus Pius end of the range.

Quadrans from the time of Domitian to Antoninus Pius, 81-161
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Rome. Bronze, 13mm, 2.9g. Winged caduceus; SC in field. Winged petasus (RIC II (1926), 32).
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I don't know how I missed this very informative Antoninus Pius thread
...Thanks Jim I'm glad you enjoyed the thread.

Thanks for posting some civic coinage J1 and John...I don't really know much about these types apart from these provincial cities basically had free reign over their own coinage being able to depict whatever they wanted to? Would that be correct?


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Yes I believe the theory is that the cruder, smaller, lighter issues (about 8.8g) were struck in Britain, while the better ones were struck in Rome for use in Britain. What looks like less detail on my coin compared to some others suggests (with the weight) that mine was struck by the travelling mint.
...That's really interesting thanks, I didn't know this and makes your coin imo that little bit more interesting.

Paul
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