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I wanted to ask if a double sided missing clad coin would be considered to be a copper coin? Sorry if this question is stupid.
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Bedrock of the Community
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We'll need pics to answer your question.
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I've never seen a clad coin missing both obverse and reverse layers. Do you have a coin like this, or were you just asking?
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Here I'll post some pictures... so from what I was researching quarter should way about 5.6 grams... and from what I was reading, if it is a double sided missing clad it should weigh 5.4 is that correct?
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Bedrock of the Community
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A normal Quarter with Environmental Damage. PSD, not an error coin. Errers and Varietys.
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How is that environmental PSD... can you show me any similar examples to where u got your resources from please. |
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And also I showed the weight difference in my references
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Sometimes, (usual in soil burial conditions) a solid copper nickel coin can surface corrode (tone) to a pure copper color.
A clad coin would do the same.
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I certainly dont have answers but interesting for sure.
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I just thought this was interesting. The experts will help way more than I.But ..in the meantime check this other one out   Edited by Rabbithole1
08/01/2019 03:10 am
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@rh, while intersting, that off metal strike has a different weight than the OP's coin.
@aj, we see these environmentally toned coins posted to CCF quite often. If you would like to see other threads with similar coins that you can compare against your own, I recommend you use the search box in the upper left hand corner of your screen. Keywords like QUARTER ENVIRONMENTAL TONING should get you dozens if not hundreds of examples. As you read through these other threads, you will see that the question of the coin's weight comes up pretty frequently. Your quarter looks to be what could reasonably be expected whereas a clad coin with missing cladding will weight significantly less.
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Here's a clad quarter missing the obverse layer. You can see the difference in surfaces from the posted coin and this coin.  Here's a clad Dime missing the obverse layer. It too differs greatly from AyoJustin's coin in color and surface features.  I think a true clad coin, missing both clad layers would strike very soft on obverse and reverse. As I stated in a post above, I've never see a coin missing both clad layers. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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from what I was reading, if it is a double sided missing clad it should weigh 5.4 is that correct? Closer to 3.85 Grams The overall composition of a clad quarter is about 92% copper and 8% nickel. Spec weight of a clad quarter is 5.67 grams so 8% of that is .453 grams. That is split between two clad layers so the nickel in one layer would be .227 grams. The nickel is on fourth the weight of the layer so one clad layer would weight .91 grams. Two layers would weigh 1.82 grams. So a 5.67 gram quarter missing two clad layers weighing 1.82 gram leaves a coin weighing 3.85 grams. |
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AyoJustin, this is not in reference to your coin. I can't add much more than what others have already. Rabbithole1, I have more food for thought. Did you catch the link for the 1974-D Washington quarter struck on a Liberia 25 cent planchet? Seems graded AU58 by NGC. Quote:
@rh, while intersting, that off metal strike has a different weight than the OP's coin. During this time frame my references show San Francisco minted coins for Liberia, not Denver. Got me wondering if NGC has records or references showing otherwise? If not then something's not adding up. Thanks, Doug. Edited by Halo1st
08/01/2019 3:40 pm
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Real interesting point Halo1st.
Does make me wonder if they have another source for foreign coin production in the US, or went only by XRF analysis and metal composition only?
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