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Dearborn Moderator United States 95324 Posts	Posted 08/30/2024 11:25 pm amazing Libertads! (don't let Gary see these.. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187950 Posts	Posted 09/01/2024 9:42 pm Quote: Mexico 8 Reales 1878. Contemporary counterfeit, weighing 26.07 g (as opposed to 27.97); traces of silvering remain. A genuine example from 1877 is below. Very nice! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
NumisRob Bedrock of the Community United Kingdom 17906 Posts	Posted 09/05/2024 08:29 am Fake 1894 Spanish 5 Pesetas. There are moulding lines around the reverse rim, the underlying brass is showing through, the 'star date' in the right-hand star is wrong and the last digit of the date looks crude and appears to have been punched over another, probably so that the forger could produce coins with a variety of dates: Coin is also about 2g underweight, and the edge motifs are surprisingly crisp and clear when considering the apparent wear on the obverse and reverse. Fakes like this have been seen in street markets all over Spain since the early 1980s Genuine coin: My Trade List: https://goccf.com/t/194596 My Wants List: https://goccf.com/t/191710 Edited by NumisRob 09/05/2024 1:58 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187950 Posts	Posted 09/05/2024 09:43 am Nice comparison! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95324 Posts	Posted 09/05/2024 2:42 pm very nice examples Rob Can you tell me if there is any numbers or text in the Star by the 4 of the date? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
NumisRob Bedrock of the Community United Kingdom 17906 Posts	Posted 09/05/2024 5:19 pm Quote: Can you tell me if there is any numbers or text in the Star by the 4 of the date? On the fake it looks like 32. On the genuine coin it's 94 (correct for the type) but it's very badly worn. Another thing that gives away the top coin as a fake is the mint officials' initials - the combination MS-M for Morejon, Sala and Mendoza would have been correct for a coin of King Alfonso XII issued in the 1880s, but in 1894 the officials were Peiro, Garcia and Vega (PG-V). The counterfeiters evidently used one reverse die to make coins of different reigns and dates. My Trade List: https://goccf.com/t/194596 My Wants List: https://goccf.com/t/191710 Edited by NumisRob 09/05/2024 5:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95324 Posts	Posted 09/05/2024 8:51 pm a 32 huh? well that would be way wrong for this coin. Thanks for looking at that Rob. Spain has/had a habit of placing the coin's actual date inside the stars. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 25051 Posts	Posted 09/05/2024 10:41 pm Nice example, NumisRob! Quote: Spain has/had a habit of placing the coin's actual date inside the stars. And I thought that was a 20th Century thing! Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 73895 Posts	Posted 09/06/2024 12:55 am Nice fake, NumisRob. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Spyro Valued Member United Kingdom 381 Posts	Posted 09/06/2024 04:13 am Just wondering if the weight of the Spanish or Mexican 8 Reales varied over the years like the English five shillings did... Report this Post to the Staff
Spyro Valued Member United Kingdom 381 Posts	Posted 09/06/2024 05:15 am Thinking on... I've just got my 1804 five shilling bank token out that's struck over a Mexican 8 Reales and that weighs 26.82 grams. On the strength of the earlier post about early fake pieces of eight I got my metal detector out and scanned the coin. It came up as mostly silver. I'm wondering if the composition is 83.3%, like Talers. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95324 Posts	Posted 09/06/2024 07:40 am can you post up that coin Spyro? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Spyro Valued Member United Kingdom 381 Posts	Posted 09/07/2024 02:42 am Will do, it will be late Sunday/early Monday British Summer Time though cos I'm away at the moment. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 95324 Posts	Posted 09/07/2024 2:16 pm ah, ok! I'll wait patiently for it.. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Pertinax Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2133 Posts	Posted 09/07/2024 4:11 pm Quote: The bimetallic £2 coin, introduced in 1997, is the UK's highest value circulating coin, worth a bit more than $2. With reference to NumisRob's post about GB £2 coins on page 1, here's another one. This one looks to be monometallic, though the centre is a slightly different colour from the outer ring. It is not magnetic. The legend on the edge is correct but quite faint. The milling looks correct. The rim on the obverse seems to have overflowed and is covering the edge beads. The IRB initials under the head are joined by a blob and the queen's hair is almost flat. I suspect this is a forgery, but this is the first I've seen. I received it in change at a Home Bargains store in Scotland. Edited by Pertinax 09/08/2024 03:56 am Report this Post to the Staff
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