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 Posted 09/13/2008  01:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
A question for everyone:

Would you buy a full steps nickel if it were not graded by a top gradig company? Would you buy it on your own sight or with really good pics or is this a slabbed only type of coin?

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 Posted 09/13/2008  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Malissadawn

can you give a little more info ?

a date would be helpful ,, there are many nickels that full steps are not all that uncommon on and then there are nickels which full steps are definitely rare on.

if you have a good understanding of what constitutes full steps , and what you are looking at then slabs are not a necessity ,but if you are unsure of the criteria for full steps like no dings on the steps and no weak spots 5 or 6 steps then slabbed examples may be better suited if you are unsure until that knowledge is gained and a degree of confidence is achieved with the series .


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 Posted 09/13/2008  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neversuited1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Malissadawn,

I would like to see the coin personally, but with that being said I do have a 45D MS65+ Full Steps for sale on this site. lol. I think I would just have to ask a lot of questions and get the most info about the coin and the seller that I can. I have bought Jefferson nickel with full steps online with only pics to look at and fortunately they were beautiful when I received them. Hope this helps a little. Good luck.
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 Posted 09/13/2008  04:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok well, here is one for example. It is still in it's set and I don't want to break it out and be wrong. Kind of hard to see and get photos through the case but I did my best.
This is just one example as I have a few more, but at least this will let me know how close or far I am for seeing it for myself.

It is a 1968s
Full-Steps-Nickels

the light scratches seen are on the case not the nickel

thanks for all opinions
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09/13/2008 04:55 am
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 Posted 09/13/2008  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
full steps are defined as running the full length without touching one another and without nicks or scratches that intersect the steps...yours seems to have a couple of steps that merge with each other at near the ends..IMHO not full steps
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 Posted 09/13/2008  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinblogger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems to me that over on the left third of the steps there are two that run together. What do you think? Also, which lines do you count in determining whether it has five or six steps?
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The fullstep designation does not apply on proof coins ,,

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is that 68-S a proof? in my experience looking through all of the nickels that I do I have never seen a decently struck 68-S
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It looks good to me though I'd need to see the left side as well.

It's a remarkable coin.
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If this is an S mint and contained in the hard plastic case it is a proof .



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 Posted 09/15/2008  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpringCypress to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no expert... but I see clear delineation on all the steps... yes there is one point where two are starting to come together, but it's still very clear that there are two distinct steps.

I'd give it a FS.
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I didnt realize the fs designation doesn't apply to proofs. I will have to get out my little nickel box and post pics of the non proof nickels. thanks for the help and opinions
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 Posted 09/15/2008  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure but I thought one of your first questions was would we purchase a Jefferson nickel that is supposed to have full steps and not be graded? Not only not graded but not graded by a top notch grading company? Don't know about most people but if I see a Nickel in a 2x2 and it has what appears to me as full steps, yes I'd buy it. Of course that depends on the price. I'm a cheap person so it would still have to be cheap. Even if I found one on the ground and it had full steps, I'd probably keep it. Not because it has full steps, because it was free.
Many people like graded coins due to then they've been authenticated. I highly doubt any forger would waste time making a full step any year Jefferson nickel but of course who knows.
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I didnt realize the fs designation doesn't apply to proofs

The strike designations like Full Steps, Full Bell Lines, Split Bands, etc only apply to business strike coins when grading. Since proofs are struck to a higher level of detail, it is assumed that those full details should normally be present on a proof coin.


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Don't know about most people but if I see a Nickel in a 2x2 and it has what appears to me as full steps, yes I'd buy it.

Yep, that is a great way to cherrypick FS nickels
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09/15/2008 10:43 pm
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I would definitely buy a Full Steps nickel in a 2x2. That is one of the best ways to get a good deal.
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I've seen several Nickels graded by PCGS that do not meet the Full Step critera. Remember buy the coin not the holder. I'll post a photo once I get power back at home from Hurricane Ike on Sunday.
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