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"Cent" Versus "Penny" - My Rant

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 Posted 09/20/2008  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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British english, french, spanish, german, etc words and phrases pepper our U.S. english language.
Such as--our "dollar" comes from the Germanic Daler/Taler.
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 Posted 09/25/2008  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ichirensha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Right on m9frank!
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 Posted 09/26/2008  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jays-Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Though this discussion is kind of silly and pointless, we just need to remember that a language is a living and breathing thing. There is rarely a single "correct" way to say things. My wife is a grammar teacher so she knows the "right" answer to everything, but it is pretty common that the "right" answer feels wrong.
English changes based on people's usage of words. Kleenex is a brand name, but it is now common usage, as in "May I have a Kleenex please?" Even if you buy the house brand of "facial tissue", you know what the speaker is requesting and to challenge them by saying, "I'm sorry, we have no Kleenex, only this facial tissue" makes you look a little more than anal-retentive, but rather challenged.
I am all in support of using the word penny at will as long as no confusion is present. If enough people start referring to the "cent" as a drofol, then I'll support the name drofol. Whatever people use becomes correct.
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"I'm sorry, we have no Kleenex, only this facial tissue"
No Coke. Pepsi!
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 Posted 09/27/2008  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muckeye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jays-Dad, that's one of the most intelligible comments on the topic that I have read yet. Thanks for the thoughts.
regards.
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I'll keep that in mind the next time the coffee manufacturer is trying to tell me how many 5.5 ounce cups a pound of their product makes.

Watch for the new manufacturing breakthrough that gets 10% more cups of coffee from a pound, by reducing the size of an 8 ounce cup to 5 ounces.

And don't get me started on people who have no clue what decimated means except how they've seen the word misused.
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 Posted 09/27/2008  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kabiye_Lady to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with everyone so far!! (how often does THAT happen?)

I'm in the IT support industry and often-times certain techs will use "correct" terminology, but only to strut their stuff a bit.

Perhaps my favorite example is the term "power cycle". Here is a direct copy-and-paste explaining what that is - I am not making this up:

The first step to troubleshooting any networking printer problem is to power cycle both the printer and the computer:

Turn the power switch off.
Shut down your computer.
Turn the printer back on.
Turn the computer back on


Or you could have just said, turn the stuff off and back on again.

Oh well.
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 Posted 09/27/2008  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I am all in support of using the word penny at will as long as no confusion is present. If enough people start referring to the "cent" as a drofol, then I'll support the name drofol. Whatever people use becomes correct.


Now that you bring that up I also think we should change the name of cent and penny to drofol. Still we would have the problem of trying to sing "Drofols from Heaven" or "Drofol Seranade"
I have a Sister that has taught English for a life time and we argue about my terminology, pronounciation, punctualtion, etc all the time. Like I tell her, so what. If you know what I'm saying, I'm speaking American. Just ain't no wrong way.
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In deference to Rick (aka Metalman), I have attempted to change my vernacular to a more accurate one on this subject. (Hi Rick) To an extent, I have been successful and most generally use the word cent, today. Out of curiosity, I thought I would run a quick test. As I type this, I am setting in Panera Bread having coffee. To test the premise of this thread, I have asked each person that walked by what they called the cent I held in my hand. After twenty people, here are the results. 20 pennies / 0 cents. No I do not have ages, gender or race/religion demographics. What does this mean, probably nothing. It does seem to indicate that we may be taking ourselves too seriously, though.

Hi guys, great to be back.

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I'm going to have some fun with this. The next time I go to the bank to get rolls to search I'm going to tell the teller I want $40 of cents. I expect I will get the same reaction as when I pay at McD's with half dollars or fifty cent pieces (which ever is the correct term).
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After twenty people, here are the results. 20 pennies / 0 cents. No I do not have ages, gender or race/religion demographics. What does this mean, probably nothing. It does seem to indicate that we may be taking ourselves too seriously, though.


Excellent! Thank you for making my point better than I originally did (and for the obvious result to the 20-person poll).

Language is what we make it. Let's not get too uptight.

I try to use "cent" on here, though, and "penny" in the real world - just like a zoologist uses two different terms for animals, one at work, and one in the real world.
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Maybe I'm not as uptight about it as Iam painted to be , I mean after all you do not see red ink in the posts where the word penny has been replaced with the correct term cent for the US one hundredth of one dollar !

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I have asked each person that walked by what they called the cent I held in my hand. After twenty people, here are the results. 20 pennies / 0 cents.
Great experiment, Jim!

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I mean after all you do not see red ink in the posts where the word penny has been replaced with the correct term cent for the US one hundredth of one dollar !
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The U.S. Mint gave up years ago and starting refering to cents by the slang term "penny". They're interchangeable today.

Maybe I smoked too much "sinse" in my younger days cause it still doesn't make any "sense" to me!

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I thought of this a few weeks ago when the designs for the new cent were publicized. I noticed every news article referred to them as pennies. Thinking that some paper must have gotten it right, I looked at google news, where they show dozens of news stories from separate sources, and 100% of them said 'penny' instead of 'cent'. Then I went to the official press release from the US Mint's website, and was surprised to see that in the title, they used the word 'penny' themselves!

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