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Old Chinese Coin Found In East Hampton, NY

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I've been successfully metal detecting for the past two months and building up a good coin collection. I found a 1770's Spanish one real and three Draped Bust Cents. Today I detected this coin from a depth of 4" in the woods next to a harbor. There is a cut in the embankment with an old dirt road that people have probably been using for hundreds of years to load and unload ships, but not a deep water port with a pier. The nearby town of Sag Harbor was an important whaling town and at one time surpassed NYC as an international maritime trading center. I have no idea about this coin, but a woman just mentioned to me coins like this are popular in jewelry. This was not from area heavily traveled with a lot of debris. Until recently it was private land. No public beaches around and quite rocky to swim in. The coin was a good 40 yards in from the shore. Any help would be appreciated.
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What is your question?

It is a 1 cash coin of the emperor Kao tsung (1736-1795). This is very common.

If you are wondering how it got there, the simple answer is that someone brought it from China and dropped it there. There was a lot of trade between China and the rest of the world and plenty of coins came over. Or maybe it was dumped there in a pile of refuse from the ship, or a collector dropped it there, maybe on purpose. I think that you get the picture-many plausible reasons, none which can be known with certainty. I certainly do not find any mystery to finding a common coin near a busy port.
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Thank you for your quick reply and answers. This type of coin was not on my radar and I was surprised to find it. At first I thought it was a simple flat washer but the square hole let me know different. Now I know to keep an eye out. It's VDI number was not impressive on my machine and I nearly passed it up. I am finding many coins and artifacts and am happy to have this forum with so many people willing to help out.
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That being said, it is an interesting find for sure and certainly you would not find a lot of them buried there. Not like in China where they still find monstrous hoards.
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China, Empire, 1 cash, cast bronze, in the name of the Qian Long emperor (ruled 1736-1795). Made in the Board of Revenue mint, Beijing. One of the most common coins the planet has ever seen - this emperor ruled for a long time, when China was peaceful and prosperous - so billions of these coins were made every year. So, despite being over 200 years old, it's still only worth a dollar or two - many coin dealers have a "Chinese cash coins - $2 each" bucket, and this would be a typical coin in such a bucket.

As for how it got there, Chinese migrants took these coins with them wherever they went, using them for trade within the Chinese community and/or for ceremonial purposes. They are still used today to make Feng Shui ornaments, though they usually use replicas rather than genuine coins for this purpose.
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One of the funnest parts of metal detecting is researching the finds. It brings a coin back from the dead and tells a story within a local angle. I've never thought about the Chinese in context of the colonial east coast. Here is what Wiki has to say: "Shortly after the American Revolutionary War, as the United States had recently begun transpacific maritime trade with Qing, Chinese came into contact with American sailors and merchants at the commercial port of Canton (Guangzhou). There, local individuals heard about opportunities and became curious about America. The main trade route between the United States and China then was between Canton and New England, where the first Chinese arrived via Cape Horn (the only route as the Panama Canal did not exist). These Chinese were mainly merchants, sailors, seamen, and students who wanted to see and acquaint themselves with a strange foreign land they had only heard about. However, their presence was mostly temporary and only a few settled permanently." Add to this that Sag Harbor was made the official port of entry to the US in 1789 with ships calling in from around the world. When the whaling industry collapsed in 1847 due to the discovery of petrochemicals for oil lamps, the whaling fleets of Sag Harbor shifted over to carrying miners to California beginning with the gold rush of 1849. This would create interactions with Chinese immigrants working on the west coast. Also, the Spanish had pressed Chinese into serving on ships.
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