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 Posted 12/10/2022  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow Jim!....Such a scary looking Griffin.
Neat nail photo putting the size of the op in perspective.
BTW...Nicely manicured nail there.

Love the Manto portrait...Not the prettiest lady eh?
Cool addition and as always find your write ups most informative thanks.
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Thanks, Paul. The griffin is indeed a scary looking beast. That description could also be true of Manto in that portrait.

My nails are usually cut back to the quick when working on the old Morris. If any of the 75 year-old crud, soot and oil gets under the nails it can be difficult to get them clean again.
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This coin is better in hand, and appealed to me as Spithridates was the man who nearly changed history.

Spithridates - Spirited Defender of Persia, was the last of the Achaemenid Satraps of Lydia and Ionia, in office from 365 to 334 BC., under the high king Darius III Codomannus. He was one of the Persian commanders in the battle at the Granicus in the spring of 334 BC.

During the fierce battle, Alexander the Great saw Mithridates, the son-in-law of Dareius, charged him and thrust his lance into his face throwing him to the ground. Rhoesaces, the brother of Spithridates, then rode at Alexander smiting him on the head with his cleaver. Part of Alexander's helmet sheared off, but it parried the blow. Alexander then knocked Rhoesaces to the ground and drove his lance through his cuirass into his breast. Spithridates came up behind, raised his scimitar to cut down Alexander, but Alexander's friend Cleitus the Black, son of Dropides, quickly slipping in cleaved Spithridates' scimitar wielding arm off at the shoulder.

Spithridates died on the battlefield, having come within a whisker of killing Alexander and changing the course of history.

Ironically, six years later, Alexander and Cleitus got into a drunken argument. Alexander hurled a spear into Cleitus' chest, killing the friend who had saved his life. They say that Alexander never forgave himself for killing his long-time friend and ally.
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Spithridates, Satrap of Lydia and Ionia - Achaemenid Empire. c. 334 BC.
Obverse: Head of satrap right wearing Persian headdress. Reverse: Horse forepart right; OT monogram in upper left field. Reverse Inscription: ΣΠI (anticlockwise from below). Bronze. Diameter: 9 mm. Weight: 0.8 gr.
Reference: SNG Cop 1538; Babelon, Perses, 380; SNG von Aulock 1823; Klein 367.
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Great (hi)story associated with that coin!
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Enjoying the updates. Nice to see an Achaemenid among the recents.
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Great (hi)story associated with that coin!

Thanks, @erafjel. I love researching this type of coin and imagining what it must have been like on the battlefield.

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Nice to see an Achaemenid among the recents.

Thanks, Bob. I don't come across many of the Achaemenids. As a satrap for thirty years, Spithridates must have been a man with great power, but I didn't find much about him either.
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 Posted 12/22/2022  04:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another nice addition Jim...
Looks to have a nice green patina..
Interesting history lesson too, Thanks!
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Another nice addition Jim...

Thanks, Paul. I was quite taken by that coin.

My eye caught the "bee" in the description of this coin, and that it was from Sardes/Sardis and not Ephesos. OK, it isn't much of a bee and isn't instantly recognisable as one, but it is a bee nonetheless. What was more interesting was a link between Sardes and Ephesos. In a publication of "The American Society For The Excavation Of Sardis", by W H Buckler and David M Robinson, from a fragment dealing with citizenship of Ephesos, it says that there was an agreement between Ephesos and Sardis fixing the conditions under which citizens of either city might acquire citizenship in the other. The Sardes bee must be a visual link to Ephesos.
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There have been many posts regarding Sardes and it's coinage, so I turned my attention to the issuing official Lucius Iulius Libonianus. There wasn't a great amount of information about him, but Pretres Civiques org states: "L. Iulius Libonianus had responsibilities in the imperial cult at three levels: he was priest of Tiberius in Sardis, high priest of the 13 cities, that is to say of the koinon of Ionia, and high priest of the provincial temples of Asia in Sardis. However, this character was a strategist under the reign of Trajan. It is remarkable that a priesthood of Tiberius continued in this way nearly a century after his death. This cult may have been founded after the earthquake of 17 AD, following which Tiberius came to the aid of the cities affected."

Libonianus was highly thought of as can be seen from an inscription found on a monument to him (Text, now lost, seen by Cyriac of Ancona "in marmorea basi"; Dr. Pickering's copy printed by J. Spon 1685): "Lucius Iulius Libonianus, a man eminent by birth and lover of his city, high-priest of Asia of the temples of the Sardians in Lydia and priest for two terms of the most mighty Zeus Polieus, high priest of the Thirteen Cities, stephanephorus, priest of Tiberius Caesar, chief strategus for two terms and agonothete for life; when want came among the people, he nobly contributed toward its alleviation out of his private means a modius for each citizen, and he munificently discharged all the public offices for his native city."

Issues under the official Libonianus occur on coins during the reign of Trajan 98-117 AD.
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Lydia: Sardes. Under the official Libonianus. End of 1st/early 2nd Cent AD. Provincial Semis.
Obverse: Head of the young Dionysos right, wearing ivy-wreath. Obverse Legend: CAPΔIA NON. Reverse: Filleted thyrsos; bee, viewed from above, upwards, in field to right. Reverse Legend: CTP ΛO IO ΛI-BΩNIANOV. Bronze. Diameter: 17mm. Weight: 3.89gm.
Reference: RPC III 2393; Imhoof-Blumer, LSM 290, 13.
https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/2393
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Nice one, Jim. I'm going to give you extra credit for the Libonianus since the fillet on the thyrsus resembles frog legs.

Have you ever considered creating themed (by animal type) collages of coins? Grouping the bees together, the bulls together, etc.? Sort of like what Paul has done with his occasionally-updated Kashmiri group shots. Just a thought.
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My only ancient animal. Common coin but one I like.

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I'm going to give you extra credit for the Libonianus since the fillet on the thyrsus resembles frog legs.

Thanks, Bob. I hadn't noticed it before, but I see it now.

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Have you ever considered creating themed (by animal type) collages of coins?

I had mulled it over, especially after seeing the bee collage that Paul posted on page 28 of this thread. I don't know if I could pull it off, but I guess it would be worth a try.

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My only ancient animal. Common coin but one I like.

It is a beautifully detailed coin and nothing not to like, @IndianGoldEagle. Thanks for sharing.
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Another Roman eagle, this time on a coin of Elagabalus (c. 204 - 11 March 222). Marcus Aurelius Antoninus was born Sextus Varius Avitus Bassianus, but better known by his nicknames Elagabalus and Heliogabalus. Some dubbed him the Taboo Emperor of Rome, and he reigned from 16 May 218 - 11 March 222 when he was murdered, his naked body dragged through the streets, then thrown into the Tiber. At the time he was the youngest emperor to bear the title.

Sun worship had increased throughout the Empire since the reign of Septimius Severus, and as high priest of Elagabal from the age of fourteen Elabagalus saw this as an opportunity to install Elagabal (God of the Mountain) as the chief deity of the Roman pantheon. The god was renamed Deus Sol Invictus, (God the Undefeated Sun), and he had it replace the traditional head of the Roman pantheon, Jupiter.

Much has been written about his eccentricities and debauchery, and in his four year reign he caused much controversy. English historian Edward Gibbon wrote: "Elagabalus abandoned himself to the grossest pleasures and ungoverned fury.", while Danish-German historian Barthold Georg Niebuhr said: "The name Elagabalus is branded in history above all others, because of his unspeakably disgusting life." The Augustan history goes to great lengths to tell of the decadence and debauchery in all aspects of his lifestyle, though modern historians generally agree that these sections are unreliable, and may have been written to amplify his wickedness to later readers in the fourth century.

It is written that on his death, Elagbalus had "Damnatio Memoriae" decreed upon him, erasing him from all public records. However, although Damnatio Memoriae is Latin, the phrase was not used by the ancient Romans and first appeared in theses written in Germany in 1689.
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Elagabalus, Silver BI Tetradrachm, struck at Antioch in Seleucia Pieria, Emesan Issue of AD 219.
Obverse: Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Elagabalus, right. Obverse Inscription: AVT K M A ANTWNEINOC CEB. Reverse: Eagle with spread wings standing facing, head left, holding wreath in beak; between the eagle's legs, star. Reverse Inscription: ΔHMAPX EΞ YΠATOC TO B / Δ - E. Silver/billon. Diameter: 24-27mm. Weight: 12.57gr.
Reference: RPC VI, 7954; McAlee 762; Prieur 251 & 264.
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Good looking Provincial with a nice frontal eagle.
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Thanks, Bob.
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I see those tets have taken your fancy Jim or is it the eagles?
A nice piece with a good looking portrait. Great addition!
Elagabalus was certainly an interesting character, who knows how true the historical writings were, as has been said his actions were probably exaggerated but I think not by much!
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