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 Posted 02/08/2023  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Paul. I think we both know that it's the eagles. Someone planted the eagles in my head and they have flown around in there ever since.

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Elagabalus was certainly an interesting character, who knows how true the historical writings were, as has been said his actions were probably exaggerated but I think not by much!

Indeed. His grandmother had a lot to answer for by pushing a very unusual child into a position of such power at the age of fourteen, when even she couldn't control him. It must have seemed like a very long four years for the Romans before he met his demise.
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 Posted 02/15/2023  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another recent addition to the menagerie, and another tet. Hadrian would have been around 46 years of age when the coin was struck. It is not in the greatest condition, but what the heck; it is an eagle and it is Hadrian.
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Hadrian, Tetradrachm, Alexandria. 121-122 AD.
Obverse: Laureate head right, drapery on left shoulder, crescent in right field. Obverse Inscription: ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙ ΤΡΑΙ - ΑΔΡΙΑ CEΒ. Reverse: Eagle standing, right. Characters for regnal year 6 in left and right fields. Silver/billon. Diameter: 24 mm. Weight: 11.6 gr.
Reference: RPC 5318; Dattari 1555; BMCG 656; Cologne 763; Milne 901; Sear 3714 var. (regnal year)

https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/5318
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 Posted 02/16/2023  05:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another Tet!
Nice addition to your convocation (had to look that one up) of eagles Jim..Well attributed too, not an easy coin to find..Congrats..
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 Posted 02/16/2023  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Paul. I didn't know about the "convocation" of eagles either and will add it to my notes.
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 Posted 02/22/2023  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another tet and another eagle to add to the convocation. (Thanks, Paul. ) This time a tetradrachm of Ptolemy VIII Euergetes II, "Ptolemy the Benefactor", also known as Physcon, Greek for "Potbellied or Fatty". The downside is that the coin is chipped, but chipped = affordable, and the upside is that it still has a reasonable bust of Ptolemy I and a reasonably detailed eagle. This coin would be one of the last to be struck before his death.

In 154 BC he launched a great building program in the Cyrenaica, hence the surname Euergetes, "Benefactor".

He was born in Alexandria, Egypt in 182 BC to Ptolemy V Epiphanes and Cleopatra Syra (daughter of Antiochus III the Great), and was to rule from 145 till his death on 26 June 116 BC.

Ptolemy VIII would marry three times, and by today's standards his family unit was rather strange. His first marriage was to his sister Cleopatra II, the widow of his elder brother Ptolemy VI who died in action. There was no issue. Without divorcing Cleopatra II he married his niece and stepdaughter Cleopatra III, the daughter of his brother Ptolemy VI and sister Cleopatra II. They had two sons; Ptolemy IX Soter and Ptolemy X Alexander, and three daughters; Cleopatra IV who married her brother Ptolemy IX; Cleopatra V Selene who also married her brother Ptolemy IX, and Tryphaena who married Antiochus VIII Grypus. His third wife Irene bore him a son; Ptolemy Apion.
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Ptolemy VIII Euergetes II. Tetradrachm. Alexandria. 117-116 BC.
Obverse: Diademed head of Ptolemy I right, aegis around neck. Reverse: Eagle with closed wings standing left on thunderbolt; L ΝΔ (regnal year 54) in left field. Reverse Inscription: ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ. Silver. Diameter: 24 mm. Weight: 11.1 gr.
Reference: SNG Cop. 331; DCA 54.
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 Posted 02/27/2023  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent addition Jim!
These can get expensive and as you've said the chips keep down the outlay whilst still holding the good details on both sides.....Nice pick up..Thanks for the info too...
An interesting collecting area for sure..
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 Posted 02/28/2023  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Paul.

I was initially attracted to the rather severe looking eagle, then the nice bust of Ptolemy and of course the connection to the Seleucids. The very tempting low cost was a definite bonus.
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Jim whilst I've got Emmett's book out thought I'd give you the reference to add to your Hadrian tet attribution..

Emmett #834..b2 type obverse..

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Ps...There seems to be no reference to the crescent in the right field.
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 Posted 03/07/2023  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The additional information is much appreciated, Paul. I've downloaded it into the appropriate folder and document. Thank you.

The crescent is mentioned in the RPC 5318 page, but so far I have not found any mention as to what it represents anywhere. Hopefully someone will have the answer.
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It has been a while since I bought an animal themed coin, but this little gem from Lesbos caught my attention. Normally the obverse would feature the confronted heads of two boars, whereas this coin only has one boar's head. The reverse is also rather unusual. So far I haven't managed to find another similar coin. This is another tiny coin that is difficult to photograph, photographs don't do justice to, and is much better in hand.
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Aegean Islands: Lesbos. Archaic Period. Lesbian Koinòn. 525-513 BC. Bl Diobol (Twelfth-Stater).
Obverse: Boar's head right; in front, eye. Reverse: Barley grain and pellet within incuse square. Silver/billon. Diameter: 8mm. Weight: 1.11gm.
Apparently unpublished (but. cf. BMC 23-5 and HGC 6, 1085: reverse with incuse square only). See Lazzarini, A Contribution to the Archaic Billon Coinage of Lesbos, Series II (but also unlisted). Nearly VF.

Ex Gitbud & Naumann, Munich (their grading).
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Another eagle to add to the convocation , but it wasn't quite what I had expected.

I liked the portrait of Caracalla on this tetradrachm, but didn't understand why the reverse legend ended with APX instead of the OC T Δ it should have been. There are variations in the obverse and reverse legends, but when the coin arrived it became apparent that it was most likely a double (?) strike. On the obverse there is a fine line that follows the contour of the back of Caracalla's head. On the reverse, the eagle's left leg is missing, there is part of a wreath where the bull's head should be, also the top of the eagle's right wing and part of the legend is repeated, inverted, on the bottom right of the coin, at a position of around 180 degrees rotation.

Why would the obverse be almost perfectly in alignment, but part of the reverse be 180 degrees out of alignment?
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Caracalla (198-217 AD), AR Tetradrachm of Sidon in Phoenicia. Struck 215-216 AD.
Obverse: His laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right. Obverse Inscription: AYT KAI ANTWNINOC CE. Reverse: Eagle standing facing, head left, wings open, holding wreath in beak; between legs, Europa riding bull right. Reverse Inscription: ΔHMAPX EΞ YΠATOC T Δ. Silver. Diameter: 27mm. Weight: 13.60gm.
Reference: Prieur 1357.

A similar example here: https://coins.ha.com/itm/roman-prov...bnail-071515

The obverse appears to be a die match to the Heritage Auctions coin.
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 Posted 04/15/2023  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting minting error. I think you deserve credit for one bull and two eagles for this one, Jim. A threefer.
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I've shown this one before, but seeing all of the eagles I thought it might make a nice addition.
Attribution is not my strong suit yet so the info is what others have passed on to me.

Mint No.2 - Greek Ionia - Ephesos Tetartemorion B.C.500 - 420

Tetartemorion
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Bee / Head of eagle facing left
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 Posted 04/16/2023  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I think you deserve credit for one bull and two eagles for this one, Jim.

An unexpected bonus of the second eagle, thanks, Bob.

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Ephesos Tetartemorion B.C.500 - 420

I do have a soft spot for the bee coins of Ephesos, @ttkoo. Cheers.
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So many animals since you started this thread. I like your recent Ionian barley grain (which looks to me more like a Mysian tuna fish). But back to the beginning....this Seleucid is still my favorite in my set of non-eagle animals.

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