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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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Here is a 2 Groschen from the German City State of Saxony dated 1742 AD:

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Those wildman pfennigs are really neat! Are they actually distinguished by the direction the wildman faces? And if yes, how did anyone manage to find out which direction corresponds to which issuer?
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2 Groschen from the German City State of Saxony dated 1742


Nice! These were circulating commemoratives, called "Vicariat issues" but I don't know the context. Clearly meant to glorify the sovereign (the same man as the pudgy Polish monarch on my coins of 1751 to 1762), but I am not sure the relationship of the obverse and the empty throne reverse. Is this a reference to the War of the Austrian Succession in which Saxony supported Hapsburg Austria?

Can anyone familiar with the history fill us in?
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I am not sure the relationship of the obverse and the empty throne reverse


Good question @tdz. I was wondering that same thing.
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Vicariat coins, Vikariatsmünzen in German, were minted during the period between Holy Roman Emperors that followed on the death of an emperor and the election of his successor. During that time the Saxon Elector (Kurfürst) represented the Emperor in the Saxon parts of the Empire. Such coins have been minted several times during the 17th and 18th centuries, as can be seen on this German Wikipedia page: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikar...en_(Sachsen) The empty throne symbolizes the absence of an Emperor.

Still no coins from me for a while.
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Really interesting! Like the sede vacante coins of the Vatican.

Like you above, no coins from me until 1709!!
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Thx for the info @erafjel!
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1741 British shilling:
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1741 -- Viceroyalty of New Spain, 1 real:

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Here is an old fave of mine: a Quattrino from the Vatican Papal City State of Bologna dated 1741 AD:


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1741-A Sou Marque

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A 1741 Schilling from Zurich

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And a 1741 halfpenny of George II, Ireland

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Wow! Great variety for this date!
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1740 -- Bishopric of Munster, 3 pfennig:

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