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Very interesting. I keep toying with the idea of starting to collect notgeld. BUT it is such a large section I would have no idea where to begin to ensure some focus. I would be like a kid in a candy store for a long while.
Great thread notgeldman you have some beautiful pieces.
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@scopru - jump right in!! You won't regret it - especially when you have someone that can hopefully help you out with your notgeld questions. The best way into notgeld is collect what you find interesting. Most notgeld collectors are drawn to the colourful 'serienscheine' pieces. There are 2 catalogues that cover the majority of all the issues (which aren't too expensive or hard to find - 'Band 1' A-K & 'Band 2' L-Z). You could start and get a couple of sets for each letter of the alphabet. That way you don't have to worry about the very expensive or rarer pieces.....until you have established a 'base' and understand what you like to collect or how to collect. I have to say of course, my book 'GERMAN GEMS' would be a very good starting point as it depicts some lovely pieces/sets with full translations and also explains a few things on the way.......things to look out for etc etc. Hope that helps?
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How can any collector resist these?  They are a lovely colourful complete set of 6 'serienscheine' notgeld from Jueterbog, dating from 1921. Look at the 70pf piece - the right-side graphic shows the blacksmith and his apprentices beating something in a sack. (Its a story that I explain in more detail in my new book that I am working on!). They are a 'typical' set of colourful and interesting notgeld that would cost maybe 2 or 3 dollars each..........  |
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That is a beautiful set. |
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These are a bit different! Actual notgeld issues in the form of stamps!  Anyone want to guess or tell me the date of issue?  |
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Anyone want to guess or tell me the date of issue? Wild guess... 1921? |
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@jbuck - it is a very good guess indeed.
Usually these small and fairly plain types would be 1920.......with the more colourful pieces being from 1921. However, notice the 'Gas u Strom' (Gas and Electric charge/current). These are 'wertbestaendige' notgeld issues as they have a commodity amount behind them to keep their value in the times of the hyper-inflation. Unusual too, is the normal value in pfennig, which one would expect here to be Goldpfennig. Now, if you had said 1923, maybe I would think you had a cataogue!!
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Here are some further examples.......  They are nice 'unusual' additions for a collection. In the notgeld collecting arena, we have a few stamp-like pieces, a few paper 'coin' pieces and quite a few notes issued by Banks......so the whole collecting areas overlap. The only thing with notgeld is that they are 'local' issues and not a country issue, in the more usual terms of banknotes. Think of them as being issued by your local bank for use by the town's people because the Govt is inept and in turmoil. It may yet happen again.......!!  |
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Now, if you had said 1923, maybe I would think you had a cataogue!!  Quote:
Here are some further examples....... Excellent! Quote:
Think of them as being issued by your local bank for use by the town's people because the Govt is inept and in turmoil Unfortunately, the local banks are not that local now (mass consolidation by larger national banks) and I cannot imagine them being any less inept that our government.  |
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Nice adds.
So could I spend notgeld in a different region or locality then is was issued? Or could I go to the local bank and exchange for that locality's notgeld?
Also, how long was that typically? What notgeld didn't have expiration dates (if any)?
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@scopru - usually notgeld were only valid in the area that they were issued in, but it is known that sometimes notgeld travelled and were used throughout the German State. You couldn't go to the local bank and exchange another area's notgeld for their notgeld - it didn't work like that. It was all about filling the coffers and hopefully producing notes that people would keep and not surrender or use. The pieces issued by shop-keepers meant some loyalty from the person who had the coupon or voucher. Validity dates are an interesting topic in themselves. Some that were issued in September would expire at the end of the year. For others issues though, the validity period had already expired when the notes were issued. Through the hyper-inflationary period, the validity dates didn't mean much as the face value of the note had probably made it quite worthless. Some notgeld issues say 'valid until cancelled'. That could have been after it had been used or after a 'call' in the local newspaper. I hope this helps a bit? It would be something to look out for - the longest validity period - I've never really focused on it.
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Here is a good example:  'Nur gultig.......' Only valid in...... |
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Nice example! |
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