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 Posted 02/17/2021  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been having a tough time trying to ID this regal evasion, at least with respect to Atkins' listings.

I can (somewhat) discern the following for the legends:

Obv GEORGE RULES.
Rev BRITAN NIA. Ex ?

Uncertain of the punctuation due to the wear. I initially believed it to be Atkins 159, but after viewing an image of that variety it is quite different. A google image search yielded a variety having the same obverse with a NORTH WALES reverse of an unreadable date.

Any thoughts are appreciated!


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 Posted 03/27/2021  06:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Picked up this one last week - a fairly standard 1775 contemporary counterfeit but with surprisingly good detail.
The blob on the left of the obverse seems to be something melted onto the coin rather than verdigris. I have tried various solvents and heating to around 100C without shifting any of it!

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 Posted 03/28/2021  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sjkrose to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PaddyB,
That's a Long Top Seven family member which is briefly discussed in one of the chapter of the book. "Contemporary Counterfeit Halfpenny and Farthing Families". Congrats on your new acquisition...

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 Posted 06/17/2021  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was surprised to come across one of these and jumped at the chance to pick it up! A Duke of Yorke "Evasion Hybrid" with an evasion obverse and contemporary counterfeit reverse. The crude Irish-type reverse is evidently a die from the Simian family of counterfeits with its characteristic crudity and hand-cut lettering.

Listed as Cobwright D.0020/H.0110 and Atkins 97.
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 Posted 06/18/2021  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sjkrose to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
blargish
I updated my Simian Plate with your new addition... Thanks for posting!
Rickie

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 Posted 06/19/2021  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No worries! I've been getting back into contemporary counterfeits as of late. Do you happen to have an example of the Irish Simian obverse that pairs with the 1769 reverse?

Also, are those images from your own collection? The Duke of Yorke - Britannia example is fantastic.

Cheers,
Will
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 Posted 06/23/2021  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A rare unlisted variety that one is. any photos with higher resolution?!
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A rare unlisted variety that one is. any photos with higher resolution?!

Nah. Only low res dash cam footage.
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 Posted 10/07/2021  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A new Simian pickup. The reverse die could not have survived much longer after this!
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blargish
The 18-52C is really hard to find in early die state... Here's my example!
Congrats on another great coin.

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 Posted 10/11/2021  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks sjkrose. I see the 52C reverse plated in the Counterfeit Halfpence and Farthing Families book is of the early state.

Still trying to familiarize myself with the different families, which is certainly easier said than done!
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 Posted 10/14/2021  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another counterfeit 1/2d that caught my eye with its interesting style, as well as the raised rim (apparently modified to make the coin appear thicker than it is?)

After a preliminary look through the Counterfeit Families book, a match to a specific variety or family has still evaded me.


George III, 1775 Counterfeit 1/2d
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 Posted 12/26/2023  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sjkrose to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hope everyone had a wonderful holiday... I thought I would post a newly acquired 1719 counterfeit halfpence. It's somewhat special as there are only 3 known of this variety. Enjoy!
Rickie


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