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Australian And New Zealand Coins, How Far Back Can We Go - First Edition

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 Posted 01/09/2021  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A nice treat for you with Australia. 2 years ago I got 2 of these $10 NCLT silver coins for $15 each!


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Like the 50 cents, the $10 silver coin is based around the Commonwealth Games. This coin started an annual series of $10 silver coins that lasted until 1988, State arms were 1983 - 1987 and in 1988 a Bicentennial Theme was used.

Two finishes, Proof and the standard Uncirculated shown here.

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Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition

Unlike the 1966 50 cents, these are a better and more scarce cheap silver piece - 20 grams each, Sterling silver and just 100k minted. I say that as some sellers here think the 1966 50 cent piece is rare and good investment material - they made 36 million coins and most survive, its not rare.

These are common mint ones, but a strike in 1981 saw some minted by a private firm.
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01/09/2021 02:24 am
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The rest of my 82 is standard circulation stuff, but again in nice condition. A big thanks for David Graham providing me with the 50 cent coin which I did not have until a few weeks ago.

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Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition

Just a question for resident Australians,
How often do you find 1980s dated coins in your change and are they usually still in near nice condition?

I ask this as these coins are mainly from buy ins and I am not sure how long ago they came out of change, in 1984 or 2014?
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 Posted 01/09/2021  03:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Just a question for resident Australians,
How often do you find 1980s dated coins in your change and are they usually still in near nice condition?


All coins even back to 1966 are commonly found in our change. Occasionally you can still pull out a nice 1980's coin, but most are well worn by now.

I am on the lookout for UNC 1980's $1 coins for you, but no luck so far.

Steve :)
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1982 New Zealand dollar:
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Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition
I have never attempted to remove this coin from its original case! The cases in which the older dollars were supplied come apart much more easily!

1982 Australia 50 cents:
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Unusually, I got this coin in change for a 50p at the long-closed Pegwell Bay hoverport in Kent, England!
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01/09/2021 05:00 am
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1982 -- New Zealand, 2 cents:

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Nice shots - you both take great photos.

Steve, yes maybe I am lucky possibly I am working with some coins that have not seen the inside of a till since the early 1990s at the latest.

1981 is coming up and its a bugga of a year for Australia, with its strikes and minting in Winnipeg and Llantrisant as well as Canberra. I think I have some of the varieties, but you guys can judge.
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1981 in New Zealand was fairly humdrum coin wise, with all coins issued for circulation and low to average numbers of each denomination (Low 1c and 10c, average others)

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Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition

The copper is quite nice, but by now the silver denominations are fairly cloudy and well worn (High VF condition mostly).

1981 was a horrid year in NZ with a Springbok rugby tour causing the worst protests in decades, anti and pro tour supporters crashed planes into rugby fields, dropped flour bombs and cause near riots. Special constables broke it up and mainly harassed and arrested anti tour protestors. Racism was levelled and proved as Police truncheoned anyone with brown skin or an afro.

Race relations and class relations in NZ reached a low ebb, especially as the horrible Muldoonist repression was voted in for a 3rd term with a very slim margin.

A movie "Patu" was made about it, with the slogan - You may love it, you may hate it and you may even be in it!
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The dollar for 1981 I consider to be bland, it was another Royal Visit in 1981 and this time we had an English oak acorn and leaf winding with a Kauri seed and twig. I have never seen any coin more plain or boring ever.
And this was after a decade of the Coat of Arms design being trundled out 6 times.

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Anyway my example is fairly nice.

NZ in 1981 was really different to NZ in 1989 and you guys have probably seen this from the colourful and commercialised designs of the 1989 dollars to this dull brown dross.
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01/10/2021 02:47 am
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Princetane - I've never seen one of those 1981 NZ dollars before! I agree that the design isn't very inspiring!

A couple of 1981 Australian 50c coins from me - the standard design and the Royal Wedding commemorative:
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I liked the way that Australia in the 1970s and early 1980s made relatively few commemoratives but they actually got into circulation. In the UK we had a huge 38mm crown for Charles and Diana's wedding.
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NumisRob, that was the thing - more remarkabale designs were popular and the Kiwis hit gold with the endangered bird series of the 1980s. More boring themes like Royal Visits did less well, generally her popularity declined from 1963 onwards as NZ became more outwards looking.

Now 1981 in Australia was a heck of year with 3 types of 20 cents, 3 of 5 cents and 2 each of the cent and 1 cent. I have tried to identify them.


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Obverses
20 cent coins I believe - Canberra, Llantrisant and Winnipeg. The last one has a shorter 1st claw on right which means its Welsh or Canadian. Top left coin is definite Canberra, I will leave it to you to decide which of the other 2 is which if not the same.

I suspect Top right is Wales as the nostrils are thin and there is no gap between ripple and face (Then again the Canberra does not either, but look at the wide nostrils on the platypus). The bottom coin is almost certainly Canadian as it has the flattish detail and the nostrils are normal sized.

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The Welsh coin (Bottom row, left) has text closer to edge than Canberra one.

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5 cent coins - Short spine (Australia), no short spine (Wales) and Curly hair on Obverse bottom and coin on right in obverse photo above. Look at the coin edge around 10 oclock position and you can see that short spine on the left coin and long one on the right coin!

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2c and 1c, the 1c is Canberra as it was not a "bagged" coin.

Apologies for photo quality - but quite certain I have the varieties, the Llantrisant (Wales) coins have dies similar to 1966 London strikings. The joy at least of most of these 1981 strikings is that none are rare or even scarce.

Big thanks to NumisRob for showing the 50 cent coins, as I don't have any of them!
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01/10/2021 04:21 am
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1981

Not much time to post today,
so just a quick few.

Aus One cent
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Aus 2 cent
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Aus Chuck & Di.
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Steve :)
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1980 in New Zealand was the first of 3 big years of coin issuing, all the denominations were issued for circulation and inflation was raging at a rate of around 10 - 17% a year. More coins were coming out, but they were rapidly losing value, a 1980 50 cent coin had the same buying power as 10 cents in 1967!

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Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition

Apart from 1c and 2c which were gone within a decade, these all circulated through to 2006 meaning they had a quarter century's worth of wear on them.

The 1980 dollar coin started a Birds series that dominated the 1980s with the exception of Royal Visit coins.


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Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition

Its not bad, the Fantail was not endangered like later issues, but its a cute and friendly bird that will follow you around. The Fantail also appears on the $1 note issued between 1967 and 1990. Despite being tiny, its tail is like a fan and like many NZ endemic birds, its friendly and fearless nature has made it an easy victim to introduced pests and predators.

Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition Top note shows a fantail in full flutter. Below is the Rifleman a similar cute and very friendly bird.

I added this too, as the photo came out badly, I shot these through a bad rain storm which damaged the natural light.
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Australian coins for 1980, again a complete set!


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Again apart from the 50 cents, most are in pretty decent condition.

Tomorrow we head into the decade of day glo colours, flares, glam rock and disco and perms and afros. The coins are a lot less exciting than the fashions, so I won't be showing complete sets all the time, and just some highlights of some years. Every year will still have coins from me for both countries (Excluding years in which none were minted).
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I've got a 1980 New Zealand uncirculated set. This was brought back as a present to me by my parents who went to NZ in the Spring of 1981:
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1980

Aus One cent
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Aus 50 cent (double bar variety)
The double bars are just 2 pieces of reed that touch the back of the Emu's head. On other coins this does not show, which I guess is due to worn dies or Grease Filled Dies.
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Steve :)
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