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Australian And New Zealand Coins, How Far Back Can We Go - First Edition

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1984

NZ 20 cent.
Australian-And-New-Zealand-Coins,-How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go---First-Edition

Aus One Cent
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Aus 10 cents
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Aus 20 cents
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Aus One Dollar
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I heard that the demise of the 20 cent coin in this era
was due the end of the Space Invader craze. In early 1980s, every pizza store (and others) had a couple of Space Invader machines, but then the bubble burst and we didn't need all those 20c coins any more.

Steve :)
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Thanks, Steve I think I just learned something then.

That was probably the reason here, we had a gigantic mintage of 17.5 million in 1982 when most other years had 5 to 7 million and then 1983 and 1984 had peppercorn mintages of 1.5 or 2.5 million.

Yet I remember playing 20 cent spacies up to 1990 - they they had all those $1 and 3 plays for $2 ones. But also in the early 80s, 20 cents was like the $1/$2 of today, 20 cents was a bottle of milk, a newspaper, an ice creamm a local postage stamp etc.
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01/07/2021 12:51 pm
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Quote:

peppercorn mintages


Had to look that one up. Never heard peppercorn used in that meaning. Another new word for my brains lexicon! Thanks PT.
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Quote:
Thanks, Steve I think I just learned something then



Quote:
Another new word for my brains lexicon!


Look at that. We are all learning new stuff.
That's what it's all about.

Steve :)
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David I may have used peppercorn out of context. I meant it for the coins being of a very low and impractical mintage (Like 1.5 million 20 cent coins, when there are like 200 million of them floating around).

I saw the word peppercorn used to describe a trivial amount of rent or sum paid for something worth a lot more (Like in the 80s, my mother was a Prison officer and we lived in the Prison village, as the Prison was a long way out of the city and the rent of the house was $5 a week, when a rented home should have cost $200 or so).

Also for something daft like buying a company worth millions but with kabillions worth of debt and obligations for $1.

Sometimes I need to find the word and I can not.
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Before I show my main 1983 coins, I may whet your whistles with this little beauty I got in a bulk buy a few years ago. Missing its promotional packaging, but still complete!

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That is right, a Proof set! Click on the photos to enlarge it slightly and the photo is much clearer, one of my few photo triumphs.

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Yes and look at that cameo polished finish.

Incredibly lucky to have this and in such great shape. The quality of the finish blows me away and photos do not do it justice. It gleams. Big plus is the 1983 20 cent piece, only minus, no $1 or $2 coin as we are back in that pre $1 coin era now.

I have plenty more to come a bit later. Meanwhile drink in that proof coin goodness! I mean the 20c and 50c almost look silver, but they are not and the detail
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01/08/2021 01:17 am
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Regular coins for Australia, I have them all

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1983 saw all of the denominations issued except the 20 cents, several million were minted, but re melted, as Steve said this was likely to the spacies market tanking a bit.

Spacies were video game machines that were free standing and played in takeaway food bars and arcades. Named after the 1978 game Space Invaders, they exploded in the late 70s and early 80s and skilled players could make 20 cents last hours. Sadly 2 things ruined their momentum.

1. The growth of the Home video game system market led by Atari in the early 1980s, even a dreadful ET release in late 1982 could not kill the momentum much. It led to a collapse with Atari, but Japanese companies Nintendo and Sega took over followed later by Playstations and X boxes.

2. Moral panics, as the arcades were seen as dark and unhygenic, streetkids and drug addicts gathered there and in NZ they attracted gang members looking for prospects. Video games attracted an "undesirable element" namely read working class and Maori children who were the target of stereotyping by a rabid and racist media. Movements in the later 80s saw the image cleaned up and the issue was forgotten when pokies invaded these arcades in the later 80s.

My coins here are all in good condition too (Figure of speech meaning AU/UNC rather than the heavily worn Good condition)
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01/08/2021 03:54 am
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1983 was more low key on our side of the ditch and to completely fly in the face of pattern, a 20 cent coin was issued. It seemed that Galaga, Frogga and 1943 could gobble a few more coins yet as Muldoon's economy was slow to let Atari through the floodgates!

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In all seriousness, it was because so many coins had been minted between 1978 and 1982, that 1983 saw a slow down in issuing. 40 million 1 cent coins were minted (But demand for our smallest coin was always high, with many prices ending in a 9). A more modest 15 million 2 cent coins and just 2.5 million 20 cent pieces (Lowest since 1972) but more than the 1.5 million in 1984.

Conditions are pretty good but Verdigris is noticeable on the 20 cent. These coins look nickelly but are 75% copper and it leaches through.

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Finally 1983 gave us 2 large dollars. Both are quite interesting.


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50th anniversary of coinage and Royal Visit of Charles and Di

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37 years in a plastic holder seems to have "browned" these coins slightly.

The coinage dollar is a nice design and was revisited in 1992 with a similar design, the coins are showing a mix of Predecimals and Decimal designs. The coat of arms from 1953 is also present. This dollar was the standard coin issued with the sets.

The Royal Visit dollar shows a good portrait of Charles and Di and is from their visit in April 1983.

Both coins are common with mintages of 40k each in this state and 17k as silver proofs.

Here is a silver proof of the Royal visit one

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1983

NZ One Cent
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NZ 20 Cent
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Aus 20 Cent
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Aus 50 cent
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Sorry guys too hot here today, to sit on the computer.
41.3C early and still stinking hot now.

Steve :)
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1983 New Zealand 20 cents and Royal Visit dollar:
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1983 -- Australia, 10 cents:

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Great photo.

Once we hit the 70s, I will only show selected coins of each year, not all of them - just takes too long and photo quality suffers.

However the big years like 1965 and 1966 I will show a lot more.
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1982

NZ 50c
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Aus 20c
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Aus 50c
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Steve :)
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Beauty Steve.

My 1982 is complete, but to be honest what a boring year for both countries and in fact back to 1980.


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NZ everything was issued and apart from the 1 cent in large numbers, particularly the 20 cent piece

1982's dollar celebrated the Takahe - one of our famous flightless birds thought extinct until "discovered" in an isolated Firodland Valley in 1948. In the flesh these birds are huge (Like 2 feet high and Dodo like). Like most of our threatened birds, the Takahe is completely flightless.

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This stunning portrait of her Majesty graces all the dollar coins back to 1979, one of the last things designed by James Berry (1906 - 1979) before he died.

James Berry designed the obverses to the 1967 coins (So not the Pukaki 20 cents or either of the $1 or $2 small coins) and the original obverse to the $1 coin (Coat of arms) and also numerous stamp issues in New Zealand.
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