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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Is it time to bring back the 2 or 3 cent pieces? Nope, because the nickel should probably go, too.
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Valued Member
United States
123 Posts |
I wondered if anyone was going to mention the unbiased poll question, construction. º YES! º no  From a collecting point of view: If there are no more useless Zincolns then everyone could invest in making their existing collections even better, by updating and upgrading? There would be a forever limited supply, nothing new made, values would go up? From the number I find laying on the ground outside stores, people don't even care enough to bend over and pick up a cent, when they drop one. All those pennies do nothing but wear holes in my pockets. Oh wait, that's the argument against dollar coins, isn't it? 
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: There would be a forever limited supply, nothing new made, values would go up? There is already a forever limited supply every time the year changes, so what really changes if you are a set collector other than the set having an end point? 
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Valued Member
United States
493 Posts |
RCM made the most beautiful pennies or cents. I dumped a whole bunch last year, sad, but I like having them in U.S. circulation for everyone. We will go the same way when we stop using the penny to disguise inflation, people just throw to much change away is the problem, google that number up. Take a penny leave a penny. Now, I noticed some people just keep a running count in their head how many pennies their till is up or down. But, with retail being slower now, and more automated, it just rolls the pennies out, hey it's the penny, you have to count that thing out, it's keeping people employed somehow, we need stuff to do. I voted no, but say keep it in mint sets like the half dollar. They could let it go for retail transactions but technology has the penny coded into it forever as in the banking process or whatever. So, the penny is here to stay that way.
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: We will go the same way when we stop using the penny to disguise inflation Truth. Naysayers assume losing the cent will cause inflation, but they fail to see its existence masks the inflation we have already had and still have.  Quote: I voted no, but say keep it in mint sets like the half dollar.  Quote: So, the penny is here to stay that way. Agreed. The cent will likely live on electronically forever. 
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New Member
United States
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Obviously the only solution is to make a copper coin exactly the price of the copper...just like they used too
so if it needs to be 5 cents make it 5 cents...the denomination and material are all changeable...keep the same size and Lincoln and boom whatever 3 grams of copper is worth...that wont fluctuate horribly at that weight, but it's kind of fundamental to how money should be thought of
I'd love to have a new coin based on weight and it sure isn't going to be gold or silver any time soon
Collectors will be satisfied and traditionalists will have something tangential...the mint can print a new denomination
Sounds logical to me
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Obviously the only solution is to make a copper coin exactly the price of the copper...just like they used too I do not think our copper coins were ever tied to their bullion value like gold and silver coins were at one time. That being said, it would never work today. Precious metal values are not stable enough (the value of our coins would change daily) and any attempt by government to stabilize them would not be received well.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Coins in general take a one-way trip home to my change bowls. I literally am unable to remember the last time I consciously and purposely left home with any coins in my pocket. Since tolls are electronic and since I've owned my own washer & dryer for decades, I never use coinage. My bills are paid online and 99% of my purchases are electronic. You could eliminate all coins as far as I'm concerned. I'm also old school as far as seeing a lost penny on the ground and picking it up. My allowance as a kid was 10 cents a week and my brothers and I collected soda bottles to support our candy addiction, so I've never passed up a stray penny. Oh, and by the way, I voted Yes.
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Moderator
 United States
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Welcome to the fray, Steve. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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New Member
United States
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Quote: I do not think our copper coins were ever tied to their bullion value like gold and silver coins were at one time.
That being said, it would never work today. Precious metal values are not stable enough (the value of our coins would change daily) and any attempt by government to stabilize them would not be received well. I think you're missing my point...the US Mint is minting absolute trash for circulation, there is no more incentive since 1982 to collect pennies. I just went through my 20 years of change, and any of the Zinc coins are absolute trash the day they enter circulation now Why not Mint a copper coin and have it at 4 cents or 3 cents whatever it costs for the copper at the time...that's the whole reason we're on this zinc/copper plating...cost of the metal. That's a dumb policy to me Tell me this, is it really logical that the 1 OZ gold from the US Mint still says $50? Let's at least bump it up to $1000...it makes no sense anymore The US quarters program has diluted the market with too many options, again more trash no collector wants, unless its UNC or Proof The policies at the US Mint are weird and need to be changed
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Would be interesting to hear from the private retail/entertainment sector on this--free of any numismatic bias (if that's possible). Pull together a cross section of owners/managers for a half day and have them discuss the matter--offer a free lunch catered for the group before they leave for the day. A couple convenience stores, a nursery, a couple arcades, a mid-scale amusement park, ice cream shop, etc., etc. Would be great fun to learn what the vending machine-based industry and makers of vending machines have to say as well.
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Valued Member
United States
216 Posts |
The penny should no longer be minted for circulation, but instead, be minted for collectors (in the form of rolls, proof/mint sets, collections, etc.). Much like the Kennedy half-dollar, assorted dollars, and commemorative coins.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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No keeping the coin is pure financial folly , drop the nickel while you are at it .
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The ability to drop the nickel is often mentioned, but is a fallacy. Without nickels, if someone pays an $x.85 amount with paper money, there is no way to directly return the 15 cents change owed.
That could be solved by rounding to the nearest dime, except doing so would hinder use of the current workhorse coin, the quarter, which would become useless except in pairs.
There are many alternatives, of course. Stop making all coins except the quarter, and round to the nearest quarter might be the most practical.
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