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Real Or Fake? 1877 CC Trade Silver Dollar

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 Posted 03/31/2021  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Grape, I wanted to send you an email but the forum will not allow me to send one since I am a new member. In a previous thread you had mentioned that you worked in a coin shop so I value your expertise. I searched some more information on the Trade dollars on this forum about detecting counterfeits. I found the die pairings that are absolutely counterfeits. When you said you can tell by half a glance that this was fake is it because you knew those pairings? I can see now that the obverse is a type 1 hand but a type 2 scroll which is wrong and I can see the reverse is a type 1 which doesn't belong. What else should I be noticing? It is hard for me to discern details because of wear. Please educate me!


Yes, I do work at a shop. It's not a matter of die parings so much as the overall appearance. Most Chinese produced counterfeits have a certain "look" to them. As previously stated, that look is a combination of surface color and smoothness, misshaped details, relief, and artificial wear. Once you've seen enough of them they all look the same.

The weird grey color that a lot of these fakes have is extremely unnatural.

You said it was hard to discern because of wear. The problem is, there isn't any. Look how detailed the reverse is, then compare it with the obverse. That could never occur on a genuine coin.

A large number of fakes can be ID'd at a glance with experience.
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