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Walking Back In Time From 1600 To Antiquity By Decades (V3.0)

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 Posted 05/06/2023  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anything more to post for this decade? I want to let @john post all his stuff, but don't want us to lose momentum either. Let's drop back to the decade of the 680s tomorrow unless we get additional coins posted. Thx.
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I can do one more. This is from one of the hoards used to date them.

Series D Type 2c Variety 3e Continental Phase Sceat, 695-715
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Frisia or Britain. Silver, 1.18g. Crude radiate bust left, with large triangular nose, no eye, chevrons before and behind, linear pyramid neck. Plain cross (SCBI 69, 172 this coin; Beowulf 28 this coin; Metcalf 176 same dies).
Ex Tony Abramson. From the Aston Rowant (Oxfordshire) Hoard 1971-1974.
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Sweeet--glad to get one more contribution for this decade! That profile is pretty difficult to figure out as it wasn't clear to me at first that one of the chevrons was actually a nose and that comma-shaped thing is an ear.

We will drop back tomorrow morning.
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Here is a Arab-Sasanian Drachm minted in Bishapur for Umar b. Ubayd Allah. It is dated AH 70, which corresponds to 689/690 AD. I have attributed it as Album 21 and Valentine 69. Sorry about the poor quality of the pictures--I thought that I had taken photos before putting this one in the 2x2.


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That profile is pretty difficult to figure out as it wasn't clear to me at first that one of the chevrons was actually a nose and that comma-shaped thing is an ear.

Yes they can be pretty abstract. The porcupine Type E is also meant to be a bust!

Only one for the 680s. A few Saxon coins are inscribed back this early, but it seems the names are all moneyers rather than kings.

Saroaldo Primary Phase Sceatta, 680-710
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Essex. Silver, 1.00g. Profile bust right with saltire cross before. Standard with tufa left side and FIT / RV in two lines within with SAROALDO around (S 784; SCBI 69 138 Plate Coin).
Ex Tony Abramson. Saroaldo was probably a moneyer.
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Looks like we are going to only have two coins for this decade. Let's drop back to posting coins from the 670s starting tomorrow morning.
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Series A Sceatta, 673-685
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East Kent. Silver, 12mm, 0.88g. Radiate bust with curved exergual drapery; TIIC in front, A and annulets behind. Degenerate votive standard with seriffed letters TOTII, tufa above containing trefoil of pellets, rounded horns, seriffed letters in margin, cross below (S 775; BMC Type 2a).
Possibly attributed to Hlothere of Kent.
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Nice!

Here is another Arab-Sasanian Drachm. It was minted at Al-Basrah and is dated AH 57, which corresponds to 676-677 AD. The authority under which it was made is Ubayd Allah: son of Ziyad, but more interestingly, the father of Umar (who had minted my previous coin). I have attributed it as Album 12.

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That's a well-struck drachm. They don't all come so clear! I think I have some Sasanian coins for the decades coming up. A couple more sceattas first.

Series BI A/C Type 27 Primary Sceatta, 675-690
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Essex or East Anglia. Silver, 13mm, 1.12g. Diademed and draped bust right within ouroboros (symbol depicting a serpent eating its own tail). Dove standing right on cross pattee, annulets flanking all within ouroboros; three annulets below (SCBC 777).


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That is a nice one @john. I'm looking forward to seeing your other Sceat too!
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Not the best looking coin and on the face of it much like the last two. These though have the moneyer's name on them and come from the transition period from gold thrymsas to silver sceattas, with this being at the late end.

Vanimundus Type 55, Variety VaB II Transitional Thrymsa, 675-760
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London/Essex. Silver, 0.61g. Bust right, crested helmet, holding sceptre over shoulder; OT[ ] helm. Cross pattee in double beaded inner circle; [ ]MV[ ] (Vanimundus, moneyer) (S 772; SCBI 69, 28 this coin).
Ex Tony Abramson; found at Debenham, Suffolk, early 2008, EMC 2009.0024.
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Still a good one though. Let's make this last call for posting coins minted starting in the decade of the 670s. Starting tomorrow morning we will drop back a decade.
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I don't have much left for the 600s and even less for the 500s and 400s. Most of what I do have comes from further east.

Umayyad Drachm, time of Mu'awiya I ibn Abi Sufyan, 668-669/AH48
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Sakastan. Silver, 33.5mm, 3.77g. Crowned Sasanian Khosrow-Type bust right; bismillah and rabbi in Arabic in outer margin; pellet before rabbi. Fire altar with ribbons and attendants; star and crescent flanking flames (Album 5).
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I agree--finding narrowly dated coins from the 5th and 6th Centuries is especially challenging.

Here is a Byzantine Tremissis minted in Syracuse under the authority of Constans II. Some folks date this coin to the date range of 662 to 668 AD. I have attributed it as Sear 1102.

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My only other coin minted starting in this decade is a Hemi-Drachm from the Nezak Huns. This was minted in Kabul between 660 and 700 AD. It is attributed as Göbl 203.

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