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A Collection Of Coins From Portugal

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 Posted 08/31/2022  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some stunning coin added to your collection Hfjacinto.

I have a 2 1/2 euro too. Always thought it was strange denomination.
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 Posted 08/31/2022  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hokiefan_82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting additions, hfjacinto! I particularly like the escudo commemorative issue.
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 Posted 09/01/2022  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Today's coin is copper nickel, and of course its a commemorative. Portugal celebrates a lot just so you know.

Today's coin is a 2.5 Euro from 2017 that commemorate the 100th anniversary of the vision in Fatima.

In 1917 3 shepherd children (Lϊcia dos Santos and her cousins Francisco and Jacinta Marto) witnessed an apparition of the Virgin Mary. The church and the government initially tried to keep it quiet but as rumors spread more and more people came to see the apparition. On October 13, in what many skeptics describe as a mass hallucinations, the sun danced in the sky. All pictures taken that day of the sun show nothing but thousands of people claimed to see the sun dance.

Francisco and Jacinta Marto died in the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, but Lucia lived to 97 and lived her live as a nun.

Fatima is today a holy pilgrimage site with 2 large churches.

In total 3 churches had been built on the area, but only 2 now stand. This is the 2nd church built in the 1930's.


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The interior of the church is somewhat simple. The tombs of the 3 shepherd children are located in this church (I didn't take a picture)
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On the 13 of the 6 months from the initial apparition (May 13 to Oct 13), thousands of pilgrims flock to Fatima. As the original church can't handle the capacity, a new much larger church was built with the capacity of 7500 seated.


The new church
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The coin:


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Issuer: Portugal
Period: Third Republic (1974-date)
Type: Circulating commemorative coin
Year: 2017
Value: 2½ Euro
2.50 EUR = USD 2.51
Currency: Euro (2002-date)
Composition: Copper-nickel
Weight: 10 g
Diameter: 28 mm
Shape: Round
Orientation: Medal alignment
References: KM 874
Mintage: 91,000
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 Posted 09/01/2022  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Jbuck, I try to add flavor to my posts, just posting a coin without context is somewhat boring!

Also congrats on the 1909 - S IHC!!
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I try to add flavor to my posts, just posting a coin without context is somewhat boring!
Agreed.


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Also congrats on the 1909 - S IHC!!
Thanks! Now all I need is the 1877.
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 Posted 09/01/2022  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You'll be happy to know tomorrows coin isn't a commemorative. It's also one I've wanted for a while and while the mintage is high, it's actually pretty scarce.

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Thanks for sharing an interesting Portugal commemorative, hfjacinto, as well as a bit of the back-story!
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 Posted 09/01/2022  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A movie was made about this, "Fatima".
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 Posted 09/02/2022  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Strange face value, 7½ Euro


It continues the (portugese) tradition of ''½'' coins (e.g. 2,50 Escudos). As do the the 2½ Euro commemorative coins.
Furthermore, as jbuck mentioned, it makes them NCLT and keeps them from circulation.
Besides, the Euro area is full of ''strange face value'' coins. Examples:
€1,50
€3
€4
€7
€8
€12
and even a €19,18 (from Lithuania)


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You'll be happy to know tomorrows coin isn't a commemorative. It's also one I've wanted for a while and while the mintage is high, it's actually pretty scarce.


Looking forward to learn which coin it is.
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 Posted 09/02/2022  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slerk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A wonderful story. I'm looking forward to the next coin.
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 Posted 09/02/2022  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The early silver coins of Portugal are generally priced higher than what is expected per the mintage, with many being in the millions. I always assumed that it was due to some melting due to the bullion value being higher. While visiting the Museum of Money in Lisbon, I picked up a 2 volume history of the Bank of Portugal and in the first volume, close to the last chapter, they covered the first mintage of silver coins.

While the mintages are correct, not all coins were released to the public, in many cases the majority were in vaults of the Casa de Moeda (house of coin). When the government changed the coins to Nickel and copper the government decided to keep the silver in vaults. In the 1930's the majority in some cases 75% or more of the coins were sold for bullion and gave a very large cash infusion to the Bank of Portugal.

So the reason that many early Portuguese silver coins are priced higher than expected is that they were never released. Today's coin is a 20 Centavos in Silver. I have been unable to find this in the US and was happy to get one in Portugal.


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Issuer: Portugal
Period: First Republic (1910-1926)
Type: Standard circulation coin
Years: 1913-1916
Value: 20 Centavos (0.2 PTE)
Currency: Escudo (1911-2001)
Composition: Silver (.835)
Weight: 5 g
Diameter: 24 mm
Shape: Round
Orientation: Medal alignment
Demonetized: Yes
References: KM562
Mintage: 706,000
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Today's coin is a 20 Centavos in Silver. I have been unable to find this in the US and was happy to get one in Portugal.
Excellent!
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@hfjacinto, your photos always look very professional. How do you photograph your coins?
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@Numis,

In a prior life, I was a semi professional photographer. So I use a DSLR with a Macro lens.


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