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Variations From The Eastern Caribbean States (Ecs):

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Since starting this post in October 2021, I have since acquired a few target notes. Here is the first: It is P-15g $20 from 1965 but released in the mid 1980's:
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Excellent!

-Thanks @jbuck. That was the 3rd last note I needed for my ECS set.

Now I will recap what I wrote about:

1993 MARKERS obscured by square issue:

In 1993, the ECS ... introduced the FIFTY DOLLAR denomination (P-29). The design employs the same portrait of QEII but the horizontal serial number gradually increases in size. Several of the design elements remain the same but they're just jostled around or re-positioned on the note, with design weaves and splashes of colour to create a bolder look. The one flaw is that the denomination marker (numeral) overlaps a patterned square. This makes the denomination tough to read (is that a $10 or $50) for those with visual impairments (or even in poor lighting). I had seen a few while living in St. Lucia and they were easy to mix up.

I have been wanting to acquire the 1993 $10 & $50 for about 4 years & I won these two:

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The two notes look remarkable similar & were the source of much frustration for the shot year they were released. The differences on the front are TEN/FIFTY, a slight colour shift of QEII & the numeral MARKERS 10 & 50 & the reverse designs. In the dark they looked identical (unless one flipped to check the reverse). Nevertheless, the printers revised their designs so the numeral markers were easier to discern & the $50 became greener in colour.
http://www.banknote.ws/COLLECTION/c.../XCD0029.htm
http://www.banknote.ws/COLLECTION/c.../XCD0034.htm

This is one of the reason I'm primarily interested in 1993 (or earlier) ECS issues.
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Very interesting!

I can see myself giving a dishonest vendor a $50 when I meant to use a $10.
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I have a couple of notes from the Eastern Carribean bank from my time working on cruise ships.
A $10 and a $20 both signed by Dwight Venner

This thread just made me look at them... they have the suffic A, so presumably I oicked them up from Antigua.

I find that notes I picked up from circulation on my various travels have a bit of extra meaning for me... I didn't know there was quite so much to these ones though. Thanks for the info.
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. they have the suffix A, so presumably I picked them up from Antigua.


Hey @DavidUK, I lived in St. Lucia for nearly a year & got a whole mix of various suffixes from other countries (A, L, D, G & some, like "U" for Anguilla, were seldom seen). Sure, the majority were A & L suffixes, from St. Lucia/Antigua, but the suffixes do get mixed up by the banks, hotels, the tourists, businesses & the exchange houses, etc.

I was there in 1995 & I think I saw one 1993 $50 a buddy of mine had & I saw the odd ratty $1.00 but they were mostly using coins by then.
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We were paid in US dollars and spent that but received change in local currencies, much of it ratty as you put it.

I didn't really pick up a whole lot that trip, I remember seeing a little stall in a mall somewhere that had silver certificates so I picked up a couple of unexceptional notes there. Also I tried to aquire some coinage from Aruba which was all modern but attractive with its squared coins.

Still I was young and chasing girls rather than currency.
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We were paid in US dollars and spent that but received change in local currencies, much of it ratty as you put it.

-Thanks @DavidUK for sharing your experience in the EC. You probably did better than me as I don't recall keeping one note!

Here's my last ECS acquisition (this $20 note from St. Lucia):
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Here's my last ECS acquisition (this $20 note from St. Lucia):
Outstanding!
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Since I began this thread (a few years ago), I have picked up a few notes to cover some gaps.

The first was a cheap $1.00 I purchased from Allens & submitted to PMG (for a GEM 66 grade):

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This P-13f version was an easy note to obtain while the initial P-13a & P-13c seem to be the tough ones.

All of my 1986 series had no Anguilla (P-17 to P-20) are relatively easy (except higher denoms) so I wanted to pick up a modified series (P-21 to P-24) which included Anguilla on the map in the design. These are much tougher than the early versions (& it took longer than I expected).

St. Lucia/Antigua suffixes seemed to be the easiest while this one from Anguilla (P-21U) was the 3rd easiest (the rest being quite tough):
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For the higher denoms, the 2nd signature (Dwight Venner) can be much more challenging than the 1st (Jacobs) signature.
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