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Should This Coin Not Be Silver? Philip V - Perseus 187-168 Bc.

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 Posted 10/30/2021  9:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add louisvillekyshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Should this coin be silver?

https://www.biddr.com/auctions/savo...84&l=2288444

Here is the one I have, 14.5 mm, 1.97 g. This is confusing me.


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Core for a fouree tetrobol?
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 Posted 10/31/2021  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add louisvillekyshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In both cases Bob? Mine and the Savoca coins on Biddr? Both are core of a fouree?
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I somehow missed the link in your post, Joe.

I suppose there are a few possibilities, right? Contemporary counterfeiters' fouree cores, unlisted AE denominations, emergency currency, types that are published/known (by specialists) but that are very rarely encountered and perhaps not posted online, or modern copies produced in the wrong metal. (Both coins do look legitimately ancient to me, though)

Another possibility that comes to mind, though it's quite unlikely, is that both were test strikes in base metal. I am reminded of a Celator article written by Robert Gonnella shortly before his death in 2009, about a copper Parthian tet. In running through the possible explanations, he states - as "Reason 1" - "Test strikes were usually made using non-precious metal, in order to avoid wasting scarce resources." He was not referring, specifically, to Parthian mints. An endnote to that sentence leads to an R. Göbl article in Antike Numismatik, Vol. 1 (Munich, 1978), p. 32. It sounds rather speculative and problematic to me, since metals can be melted and restruck, anyway. But, I guess we can add it to the list of possibilities.


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Not sure if this is the same coin. But, I have a Macedonian shield coin. 15mm 3.6g. It's bronze and coated with something. That's all I know about it.
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Travelcoin:

The silver tetrobol has the side view of the helmet like this one below.

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6850870

So this should not be bronze perhaps.....
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Is that possibly a tiny remnant of silver plate at the edge just above the helmet?
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Louisville, don't know much about of Greek coinage, but I'm fairly certain that your coin is ancient. The green verdigris/deposits appear to be authentic .
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