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Five Nero Decvrsio With Matching Die Pairs? How Likely Is This?

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 Posted 12/13/2021  8:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DirtyHarry to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
How likely would you consider it is to find these many sestertii with matching obverse/reverse die pairs?

Five-Nero-Decvrsio-With-Matching-Die-Pairs?--How-Likely-Is-This?
Roma Numismatics, 2015. E-SALE 17 Lot 578.

Five-Nero-Decvrsio-With-Matching-Die-Pairs?--How-Likely-Is-This?
Naumann, 2017. Auction 50 Lot 494.

Five-Nero-Decvrsio-With-Matching-Die-Pairs?--How-Likely-Is-This?
Gorny & Mosch, 2018. Auction 253 Lot 499.

Five-Nero-Decvrsio-With-Matching-Die-Pairs?--How-Likely-Is-This?
Gorny & Mosch, 2019. Auction 261 Lot 666.

Five-Nero-Decvrsio-With-Matching-Die-Pairs?--How-Likely-Is-This?
Höhn, 2019. Auktion 91 Lot 1168

Thanks a lot!
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 Posted 12/14/2021  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DirtyHarry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here´s another one. Also same obverse/reverse die match (Checked with photoshop) and it was sold more or less on the same timeframe.
It shows signs of previous heavy corrosion, tooling and harsh cleaning.
I am inclined to believe that it was also repatinated.
But, would you consider there is a chance for it to be genuine?
(There are a couple of tiny dark green corrosion spots on the edge, but were not captured by the camera)

Weight is 25,1 g.
Diameter 35 mm.

Thanks a lot,

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 Posted 12/14/2021  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will go out on a limb and suggest that the first coin is genuine and that the other four are cast copies made from it with varying degrees of mold retouching, tooling and artificial patination.

I may very well be wrong but perhaps my comment will get the ball rolling.
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 Posted 12/15/2021  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My initial reaction is that the lettering reminds me of some of the Bulgarian forgeries which can be quite deceptive.

See: http://www.classicalcoins.com/bulgarian.html

My second thought would be that they might be older pieces of work, which is how they might have over a few centuries acquired the "provenance" to have been sold by reputable dealers in the present day.

See: http://goccf.com/t/156436&whichpage=6#3363265

Colligo ergo sum
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 Posted 12/18/2021  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DirtyHarry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A couple more (Eight specimens so far):

Five-Nero-Decvrsio-With-Matching-Die-Pairs?--How-Likely-Is-This?
CNG, 2004, EAuction 95 Lot 127

Five-Nero-Decvrsio-With-Matching-Die-Pairs?--How-Likely-Is-This?
Gorny & Mosch, 2008, Auction 164 Lot 374
Also H.D. Rauch, 2009, Auction 85 Lot 411
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