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Commems Collection Classic: 1922 Grant Memorial - House Vs. Senate

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I've posted about the 1922 Ulysses S. Grant Birth Centenary Memorial coins - Gold $1 and Silver $0.50 - before, but decided to return to them to explore how the coin program could have been much different.

A proposal for a commemorative gold dollar coin was introduced in the House of Representatives in May 1921; the bill was immediately referred to the House Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures. The proposal called for the minting of 200,000 gold dollar coins - to be known as the "Grant Memorial Dollar" - to commemorate the 100th anniversary of Ulysses S. Grant's birth on April 27, 1822 in Point Pleasant, OH. The bill did not include any mention of a silver coin of any denomination.

The bill was reported by the Committee with recommendations for several wording changes, but none involved adding a silver half dollar to the mix. The bill, inclusive of the recommended Committee amendments, was passed by the House and sent to the Senate for its consideration.

The Senate referred the House bill to its Committee on Banking and Currency. The Committee did not object to the striking of a memorial coin, but did object to the potentially large amount of gold that would be required if all of the coins were struck. (Note: At 0.04837 troy ounces of gold per coin, the maximum mintage would have required 9,674 troy ounces of gold or 806.167 troy pounds.) As a result, it offered an amendment in the form of a substitution that dropped the maximum mintage of gold dollars to 10,000 and added the striking of up to 250,000 silver half dollars.

The amended bill was debated in the full Senate, with Senator William Henry King (D-UT) first raising concerns regarding potential cost to the Federal Government for the striking of the coins. Once the cost issue was addressed (the coins were to be struck at no cost to the Government), King voiced concern over the possible precedent that would be set by approving the memorial coin and wondering if its passage would trigger a flood of additional requests of similar memorial pieces for other "important" men. It was pointed out that the coin would not be setting any precedent, but rather following the precedent set by the several memorial coins that came before it (e.g., 1916-17 William McKinley gold dollar).

Once Senator King was satisfied, the amended bill was brought up for consideration via Unanimous Consent. As no objections were raised, the bill was read a third time and passed by the Senate. It was then sent back to the House for its consideration. As there were no objections in the House to the Senate's amended bill, the bill was quickly passed.

The bill was signed into law (PL 67-137) on February 2, 1922 by US President Warren G. Harding. Without the Senate's amendment, it's likely that a Grant silver half dollar would not have been struck and the silver series would be down one design type and two varieties!

Note 1: The Act made no mention of varieties for either the gold or silver coins to be struck. The Plain and w/ Star varieties that were later created were a matter between the coin's sponsor - the U. S. Grant Memorial Centenary Association of Ohio - and the US Mint.

Note 2: It's interesting to realize that the Senate amendment removed the name of the coin's sponsor from the bill; the change resulted in the bill being passed into law without the sponsor's name. This action, technically, opened the coinage up to requests/purchases by other groups who were willing to pay for the coins - though I have to believe the Centenary Association would have been given preferential treatment if another group had tried to step in.



1922 Grant Memorial Half Dollar - Plain Variety
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1922 Grant Memorial Half Dollar - w/ Star Variety (Star is above "GRANT" on Obverse)
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For more on the Grant Centenary Memorial coins, check out:

- 1922 Grant Birth Centenary, Plain Variety
- 1922 Grant Birth Centenary, w/ Star Variety
- 1922 Grant Birth Centenary, Grant's Birthplace?
- 1922 Grant Birth Centenary, Post-Shutdown Promotion
- 1922 Grant Birth Centenary, "Cousin"
- 1922 Grant Birth Centenary, Coins with Beards Thread
- 1922 Grant Birth Centenary, Coins with Stars Thread
- 1922 Grant Birth Centenary, Coins Designed by a Woman Thread

For other of my posts about commemorative coins and medals, see Commems Collection.



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Fascinating read!


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It's interesting to realize that the Senate amendment removed the name of the coin's sponsor from the bill...
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Indeed an engaging essay commems - many thanks for sharing your knowledge in your elegant writing style.


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Without the Senate's amendment, it's likely that a Grant silver half dollar would not have been struck and the silver series would be down one design type and two varieties!


Wow - and again the Senate saves the day.

Truly appreciate you sharing insights from your research commems - valuable reading and so well written.
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Fantastic backstory!

Your 1922 Plain is breathtaking. The obverse absolutely looks PL. I know very few commems have snagged PL designations,. Yours is the closest I've ever seen for a Grant. It's a beauty!
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@All: Thanks much for engaging in the discussion and the kind words - always appreciated!


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Just a quick follow-up so that folks don't get the mistaken impression that the 1922 Grant Birth Centenary half dollar Act was unique within the series regarding its lack of a named sponsor. There were actually several other coin Acts that lacked a sponsor's name:

- 1918 Illinois Statehood Centennial
- 1920 Maine Statehood Centennial
- 1920 Pilgrim Tercentenary
- 1921 Missouri Statehood Centennial
- 1921 Alabama Statehood Centennial
- 1927 Battle of Benningtion/Vermont Independence Sesquisentennial*

* In the case of the Battle of Bennington/Vermont Independence Sesquicentennial half dollar, when the standalone bill proposing the coin was introduced in January 1925, it lacked the name of a sponsor. As the bill worked its way through Congress and was ultimately combined into a three-coin bill that also included the 1925 California Statehood 75th Anniversary and the 1925 Fort Vancouver Centennial half dollars, it continued to be without sponsor name (the California and Fort Vancouver each specified their sponsor, however).

Beginning with the 1923 Monroe Doctrine Enunciation Centennial half dollar, including the name of the coin's sponsor in its authorizing legislation became standard procedure.

You can read more here:

- Unnamed Sponsors



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Thanks as always for sharing your knowledge. I agree with fc, your plain is about the nicest I have seen.
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Wonderful backstory as always.
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