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 Posted 06/03/2022  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are absolutely correct! Lets see what happens now!
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 Posted 06/09/2022  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Angus Coin Shop, at least temporarily, seems to have shut down.
They closed their brick and mortar shop a while ago and went online.
Now both there accounts in Ontario and Quebec show that there are
no listings available. After all of their PCCS listings have been removed
from ebay, maybe they are contemplating their next move.
Anyone else hear anything?

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 Posted 06/09/2022  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He has emailed some of his customer list announcing that he is moving his inventory to Kijiji and Etsy. I suspect it could be many factors, including:

- the changes in how ebay will collect taxes
- having his listings pulled down all the time hampers his sales, and also affect his seller's rating, which in turn affects his fees paid
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 Posted 01/05/2023  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goofball to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Colonial Acres seems to be selling PCCS now? https://auctions.colonialacres.com/...cs_i47433380

but oddly enough only in their auction and none in their (online) store.

I have no qualms with a new grader on the block, but to CanadaPennies19's point, the look *really* similar. Guess we'll all have to be more careful. Personally I think they are too similar in appearance so as to cause confusion. I'd have the same frustration if CCCS used the same colour or ICCS decided to use CCCS's blue colour scheme.
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 Posted 07/05/2023  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pccscoins....user name on ebay.

Presently has 49 pccs coins for sale.

https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_ssn=pccscoins
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 Posted 07/05/2023  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdngmt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
none for sale now at 10:37 CDT July 05/23
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 Posted 07/06/2023  06:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ebay removed them.......
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 Posted 07/31/2023  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cdncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Colonial Acres has more of these in their current auction. Here's an example: https://auctions.colonialacres.com/...cs_i49676813

I have no problem with anther TPG trying to enter the market, but these holders are too similar to ICCS in my view and almost seem like they are meant to deceive.
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 Posted 07/31/2023  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Making a company label so very similar to the long established ICCS, at the very least is ethically questionable.

Then it makes sense to follow that up with questioning their grading ethics.

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 Posted 07/31/2023  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Proof Nut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
doubleeagle59 - I agree wholeheartedly and wonder how they are getting away with it.

These inserts are too misleading in their appearance and many of the coins they are selling came out of PL sets and were not released for circulation such as the 2023 Loon, Polar Bear and non commemorative issues. At best they should be marked as NBU not MS67.

No grader should be in the business of selling the coins they certify as it definitely be a conflict of interest. Bottom line is to buy the coin not the holder and know who you are dealing with. ICCS may not be perfect but they have been around for decades but perhaps now is the time to up their game and change their holders/inserts and may even threaten PCCS with a lawsuit for copyright infringement.

PCCS coins are still listed on ebay and another quick search brings up a bunch more.

https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_sas...ificSeller=1

https://www.bing.com/shop?q=pccs+co...FEB814E91D63
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 Posted 08/01/2023  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Handi1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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No grader should be in the business of selling the coins they certify as it definitely be a conflict of interest.
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Excellent point - so how does everyone feel about Brian Cornwel's collection of ICCS graded coins being sold/or sold at auction? I believe he is the owner.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What auction are you referring to?
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No grader should be in the business of selling the coins they certify as it definitely be a conflict of interest.
Excellent point - so how does everyone feel about Brian Cornwel's collection of ICCS graded coins being sold/or sold at auction? I believe he is the owner.
He passed away, there is no conflict of interest.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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 Posted 08/02/2023  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Proof Nut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Excellent point - so how does everyone feel about Brian Cornwell's collection of ICCS graded coins being sold/or sold at auction? I believe he is the owner.


How would one know that they were Brian's coins if they are not attributed as such in some way?
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 Posted 02/21/2024  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add racingshootist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ICCS, Coin Mart Graded are not reconized by ebay either. Coin Mart Graded also grade and sell there own coins and so is CCCS(they have a brick and mortar store in St-hubert).

The COA used by PCCS is very much different than the competition. One note, no one person or company have the monopoly or locked in patern for fonts and colors. They are free for all, inteligent people know that.

It is not possible to make a living grading coins only, with a new or fairly new company. I don't expect the mear mortals to understand this. Self emploment is a very difficult way to make a living. Ease up on those souls.
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